FINAL FANTASY IV: THE AFTER YEARS

FINAL FANTASY IV: THE AFTER YEARS

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decimus28 Apr 18, 2018 @ 2:28pm
Anything I should know about this version to 100% it? Or tips going in.
Is there anything I should know about this version to 100% it? Or tips and things to watch for to save myself trouble later? I plan on using the 100% guide but there isn't a full walkthrough on steam for it so I'll be using on from gamefaqs. Any recommendations on a guide?. The version mismatch caused an issue when I played FF4 because that version only giving one limit break aug. Also I've read about losing a character in this and don't want to spend time farming to get a sub par ending. Also does this version have a new game plus or is it all one go?
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MakoSipper Apr 18, 2018 @ 5:35pm 
You've asked just what I wanted to know, especially about the losable character.

I've just found this, though (CONTAINS HUGE SPOILERS):
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_permanently_missable_content#Final_Fantasy_IV:_The_After_Years

Some of these are probably false for this version. Trying to make the list as spoiler-free as possible, and/or use spoiler tags:

* Ceodore's Tale: Unequip Kingsword during the fight against B... Bahamut
* Edge's Tale: Don't fail on the Eblan Four's missions. Gekkou can't fight the Mysterious Girl. You can't lose any of Edge's disciples in this version.
* Lunarian Tale: Flashback of a character called G......Golbez... ;), unequip Ebony Blade.
* End game: When fighting D... Dark Knight, make sure you have characters GCCR Golbez, Cecil, Ceodore, Rosa in your party so G remains in your team.
* Two summons can be missed if you don't have Rydia in your party when you fight them (battle is unavoidable). These two are: Asura, and Leviathan
* Don't forget to find Chocobo summon in the overworld during The Gathering Tale:The Moon Gravity (I think it's a part of the Crystal Tale)
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MakoSipper Apr 18, 2018 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by decimus28:
Is there anything I should know about this version to 100% it? Or tips and things to watch for to save myself trouble later? I plan on using the 100% guide but there isn't a full walkthrough on steam for it so I'll be using on from gamefaqs. Any recommendations on a guide?. The version mismatch caused an issue when I played FF4 because that version only giving one limit break aug. Also I've read about losing a character in this and don't want to spend time farming to get a sub par ending. Also does this version have a new game plus or is it all one go?

On FF4, there were good guides that were close enough to the Steam version. FF4TAY is a lot worse... On gamefaqs, you have only Wii guides, and they're a lot different from this. It sucks big time. You have to follow many guides, and paying close attention.

I'm using this one as a general walkthrough (it's not very perfect, but it helps, and it's simple to follow.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/150095-final-fantasy-iv-the-after-years/faqs/57018
Note that you'll do Kain's Tale after Edward's, not after Ceodore's.

For collectibles in general -- Bands, Summons, Adamantites, Magazines (those two seem to be excluded from Wii version), I'm using this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=441388203

For bestiary entries, the best guides IMO are the ones like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=441838691
(there's a separate guide for each tale)

None of these guides is perfect, but with all of them, I think we should do well.
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decimus28 Apr 18, 2018 @ 6:00pm 
Sounds like a good start, just have to finish maxing in FF4 and I'll jump it. I plan on using the steam guides and that missable list looks pretty helpful. This one does seem like it will be a lot easier to bonk if I'm not careful.
decimus28 Apr 18, 2018 @ 6:08pm 
This part confuses me, they seem to be one or the other per play through
From this, i looks like you can get all the eidions or the bands but not both but nothing else seems to indicate that.

"If the player fails on Izayoi, Zangetsu, Tsukinowa or Gekkou's missions in Edge's Tale, they will die, making them inaccessible in The Crystals. Thus, Bands with any of them are also permanently missable. This can also happen if Gekkou decides to fight the Mysterious Girl."

and

"If Rydia has recovered Leviathan and Asura as summons, Bahamut will turn on the Mysterious Girl and destroy her before returning to Rydia, but if not, Bahamut must be slain and will not be available to be summoned."

does
Or does "Gekkou decides to fight the Mysterious Girl" prevent bands by him dying not her?


got to figure out what the trigger for this fight is too.
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MakoSipper Apr 18, 2018 @ 7:00pm 
I don't know, maybe it is an option you get. Maybe they've removed it from this version (some things seem to have been adapted in order to make it easier for the player). Also, I don't see anyone here mentioning Gekkou is missable, so I don't know if he really is. They only mention G being missable.

I found this in the guide I mentioned, it might answer the question:
Take a couple steps to the left. Gekkou will see the Mysterious Girl and the monks. The remaining monks will be easily knocked down. You now are given the choice to "Hold back" or "Join in". If you have a death wish, choose "Join in", otherwise make the wise decision and "Hold back".
Afaik, the girl is not playable, while Gekkou is, so you just make sure he doesn't fight her. I doubt she has a bestiary entry. According to Bestiary guides, there isn't (not for Gekkou's mission, at least).

I'm pretty sure you can get both Bands and Summons, though. Fighting all enemies prevents you from getting a Summon, though (you can fight and then reload, it's in the guides).

Bands need characters to be in your party. It's like a group skil between specific characters. I'm mastering all bands as I unlock them in the game, but it may be possible that they can be mastered on the last chapter, once you have access to all characters (I think this happens, although I'm not sure).
decimus28 Apr 18, 2018 @ 8:27pm 
Ah, I see those in part 10, glad there is the reload method. Think I'll read the guide over before I start.
MakoSipper Apr 23, 2018 @ 10:18am 
I've intentionally died with Tsukinowa (one of Edge's disciples) and got a normal game over. I didn't get the option to move on without him. Maybe they've removed the chance to lose these characters, I don't know.
MakoSipper Apr 23, 2018 @ 1:47pm 
By the way, always unequip your characters before they leave, or before the Tale ends. This is especially useful during Edge's Tale, at the start, when you do the 4 missions separately, so each disciple can use whatever equipment the other one has collected. I'm still not sure how/if the equipment is carried when everyone gathers at the final Tale.
decimus28 Apr 23, 2018 @ 1:59pm 
Oh, thats a good idea. Think your right about the character lose, only one can die golbez from what I'm reading now.
decimus28 Apr 23, 2018 @ 2:02pm 
The beastiary is weird too, somethings can't or dont need to be fully filled in for 100%. Like Flamehound in Ceodore's Tail and in Mystery Egg in Rydia's Tail. I leveled to 38 to kill a Mystery Egg without hatching it and that doesn't even actually count in her beastiary, still 0 slain and all ???.
MakoSipper Apr 23, 2018 @ 2:04pm 
Yeah, there are a few exceptions, like Mystery Egg and scripted battles (they're always logged).

They say that even if you do 1-hit kill a Mystery Egg, its status will show only a bunch of "????"
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MakoSipper Apr 29, 2018 @ 8:32pm 
In this version, Gekkou won't even have the option to fight the girl, so you can't lose any of his disciples. I wonder if G is missable...
decimus28 Apr 29, 2018 @ 8:52pm 
I might try to let him die to see.
MakoSipper Apr 29, 2018 @ 8:59pm 
Him? "G" or Gekkou? Gekkou is not missable.
decimus28 Apr 30, 2018 @ 6:17am 
G
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