The Fruit of Grisaia

The Fruit of Grisaia

innercaster Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:07pm
Amane's feelings for Yuji?
I'm playing Amane's route, Yuji wonders what feelings have Amane for him, what are her motives?
Can you tell me please? Her feelings are unclear to me, why does she love him? For me, she's careful to cook for him well and please him in bed.
Last edited by innercaster; Sep 14, 2016 @ 1:08pm
< >
Showing 1-15 of 15 comments
markakeen Sep 15, 2016 @ 3:37am 
I too am playing Aname's route. I haven't got to the end yet, but this is how it seems to me:

Aname is a young woman who likes to look after, and mother, everyone else. Under this superficial veneer of competence, she actually lacks confidence, and self-esteem. I think above everything else, she wants to be loved and accepted. . Perhaps she nurtures others, because she has not had that tenderness herself from her own parents? Yuuji just happens to be there, and becomes the target of her affections. I can't really think of anything about Yuuji in particular, which would make him attractive to her.

I don't think you should take the story too deeply, or too seriously. All the characters are pretty one-dimensional, and taken to extremes for comical effect. I think there are moments of real comic brilliance; I particularly liked when they have competition to see who could befriend Yumiko, or when they went to the beach...

However, I do find myself irritated by Yuuji who has 30 years life experience crammed into a 17-year-old body. All the girls fall in love with him, despite his bigoted attitude towards women, and his smart Alec putdowns. And so far, he hasn't really shown any true emotional integrity as a believable character in himself.

I don't know how close I am to finishing the story, but I must admit, I am starting to find it a little boring. The story is kind of one thing happens, and then another thing happens, and then another thing happens. There is no progressive buildup in tension or plot suspense. I have no idea where the story is going, or why it is going there, just a series of little incidents, that seem fairly irrelevant. I will finish the story, but just hope it picks up a bit.
innercaster Sep 15, 2016 @ 4:03pm 
If it's more mother love and intimate love she looks somewhat twisted, if she gives love to be loved she's turned to herself in the end. I don't see why she's attracted to Yuji except his protection, that he's the only man. I'm in the sex scenes so not at childhood revelation yet.

Yuji says he has few exp with women but he seems to analyse them well with generalities.I've played Michiru and Sachi, I can tell Sachi has good reason to love him as you learn doing her route. Sachi and Michiru route are deep in emotions and striking!
markakeen Sep 16, 2016 @ 12:56am 
I haven't played the others yet, but I especially look forward to Michiru, Sachi and Yumiko. Your words about the other routes being intense encourage me.

I think a need to be loved, accepted, and cherished for who you are is pretty common, and normal in real life. I think Aname just has more desperation. She seems to believe that the more she gives herself to Yuuji, the more he will love her. I think the problem is she doesn't love herself. She is looking for everything from Yuuji, and wants more than he can give. I haven't got to the end yet, but I can see it leading to her feeling rejected, angry, and maybe full of self-loathing for what she has done.

That too is pretty common in real life, especially in cases where someone has experienced physical abuse as a child, and then they go on to partner with someone who then abuses them too. All out of a desperate need to be loved (or lack of self-love if you prefer to see it that way) :-(

It will be interesting to see how it goes, I'm just not sure why Yuuji needs to be a trained assassin to make the story work. It kind of spoils the immersion for me.


Last edited by markakeen; Sep 16, 2016 @ 12:57am
mr1029384756 Sep 22, 2016 @ 10:57am 
Yujii relates a story during Amane's route that I feel is a rather blunt view of Amane's character and both her and Yujii's relationship as a whole:

Remember the story of the man who bought a woman fallen on hard times, who gave of herself everything to him in the hopes that he wouldn't throw her away. The man fell in love with her, tolerated and later accepted her ardent expressions of love and faithfulness, married her and stayed with her until his dying breath. And on his deathbed, the woman said softly to the man, "Thank you for buying me," dying not long after her husband passed on.

Amane is a woman who's views on relationships has been twisted into extreme extroversion in order to seek comfort and companionship. She's not "normal" (no one at the school is) and she is only functional when she has someone to comfort and mother, or someone to give herself towards emotionally. She's not comfortable outside of those parameters, she's stated it numerous times. What's funny (not really) is that there are many women out there who display similar behaviors as Amane, co-dependant as all hell and prone to acting out instead of searching within for answers.

Its sweet if you can steel yourself against the knee-jerk response of raw cringe, but that is who she is, a cringe-worthy woman. In fact, you could go so far as to say that Amane is a female example of a "nice guy," doing whatever she can to win the target of her affection, her dignity and pride be damned.
markakeen Sep 23, 2016 @ 2:10am 
I got to the end of the Aname route and it does all make sense, but in my view was a bit long winded. Did the story really need to extend 60 years into the future? I don't think it added much and could have finished soon after the successful resolution of the incident with the hunter.
innercaster Sep 26, 2016 @ 1:32pm 
Sachi route hard to give will to do her route without spoiling it. The thing is to notice her current behavior to learn of her reason why at the drama; that despite Yuji's lesson she keeps the behavior in intimacy.

yeah that story with the "geisha", it's weird he fell in love with her it's rather pity and the woman feels inferior to him serving him. As you well say Amane sees Yuji as a teaget, I'ld add a prey.

Last edited by innercaster; Sep 26, 2016 @ 2:11pm
mr1029384756 Sep 26, 2016 @ 9:04pm 
Originally posted by minet:
Sachi route hard to give will to do her route without spoiling it. The thing is to notice her current behavior to learn of her reason why at the drama; that despite Yuji's lesson she keeps the behavior in intimacy.

yeah that story with the "geisha", it's weird he fell in love with her it's rather pity and the woman feels inferior to him serving him. As you well say Amane sees Yuji as a teaget, I'ld add a prey.

Regardless of how she sees him, and he, her, the feelings are there, and the feels are mutual. It was a well written route.
innercaster Sep 27, 2016 @ 3:39pm 
Amane? I didn't finish it. Having done Sachi Michiru, there's better love with Sachi as they brought each other happiness at a good time as a child
kevinl8490 Sep 28, 2016 @ 10:30am 
well if u have seen the anime she actually has a really big reason to do all this for himshe doesnt love him at first but she ends up actually falling for him in the end if u want me to tell u y she was crazy for him befor she fell for him just message me
innercaster Sep 29, 2016 @ 4:16pm 
I didn't see the anime, I achieve the game first, I will read the manga someday, I know a site with plenty of manga translated in english, PM me if you want the name
to put amanes feelings and route simply its her punishing herself , putting herself in a place where she can be punished and trampled on to receive some twisted kind of justice upon herself for things she didnt even do . But finds herself in a position where she is actually loving Yuuji wich makes her feel even more guilty until Yuuji is making his point clear
TasteofEnvy Feb 16, 2017 @ 12:03pm 
She doesn't love him at first, but as the story develps she does fall in love with him. Based on Amane's background and her connection to Yuuji, which I will not spoil, I would say it is all out guilt and self-punishment. She feels guilty about her connectioin and what happened, and feels like she "owes" it to Yuuji. I can't remember if it was mentioned in the VN, but in the manga it was mentioned that before Amane met Yuuji, she would often go to love hotels and let men use her as punishment for "what happened"... she would not allow herself to have proper love and let others take care of her. Instead, she would take care of and please others; her body often being the price. When she met Yuuji she figured her body would be the price and he would be the one to "punish" her and use her as he pleases. HOwever, as the plot develops and he encourages her to live her own life and stop being so desperate, she starts to fall for him.
korytoombs Feb 23, 2017 @ 4:31pm 
I really don't like Amane, but I like her story. Her past scenerio is very well told. (Could be its own visual novel.) When Amane tells YuuJi her secret I was like "I didn't see that coming." I has all sorts of ideas in my head, but the VN does't give you any hints until you are finally on her route.
gspd Mar 31, 2017 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by inner caster:
I'm playing Amane's route, Yuji wonders what feelings have Amane for him, what are her motives?
Can you tell me please? Her feelings are unclear to me, why does she love him? For me, she's careful to cook for him well and please him in bed.
a
jim866 May 10, 2017 @ 1:56pm 
Amane starts the relationship as self-flagellation and a form of repentance for past sins but ends up in a sado masochistic form of love with the misanthrope. The all ages form of the game cant delve too far into this for obvious reasons.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 15 comments
Per page: 1530 50