King's Quest

King's Quest

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caoclo Jan 22, 2016 @ 9:31am
How can you get complete if you already have season pass?
Oh boy, I want to upgrate to complete but I already have season pass. Is there a way to do this without paying double? I just want to upgrade.
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Gabby Jan 22, 2016 @ 10:33am 
Nope, unless you haven't really played the game yet or played more than 2 hours since purchasing the pass. If you haven't, request a refund of the game and then purchase complete.

If you have played, you can request they remove the game from your library (no refund) and rebuy.

HOWEVER: TOG has mentioned plans to add the Epilogue to the Season Pass, so if you hold tight there might be no reason to do this at all.

ALTERNATIVELY: Contact TOG, they've been known to try and fix this for people themselves.
Redrum Jan 25, 2016 @ 4:38pm 
Contact Steam support. It worked for me. And my time was 20 hours+. They are aware of this problem.
But maybe you will have to buy the game a second time. They will delete the game from your Steam account, wait for you to buy the complete edition and you will get a refund with steam money. (I hope you understand, my english is not really good)
Travis.touchdown Feb 8, 2016 @ 3:17pm 
Similar issue here.

Bought ep. 1 when it was 0.99 $, started playing, figured I like it, purchased the Season Pass when it was discounted.

Now, as Seraphna has mentioned above, TOG are allegedly tinkering with the idea of offering the Epilogue for Season Pass buyers as well. But for now, we should take that information with a grain of salt. Ultimately, the publisher(s) will have the final say in this, which would be Sierra and Activision.

I contacted both TOG and Sierra via Twitter in this matter, but have yet to hear from them.

All in all it's just a pretty stupid and anti-cosumer marketing/distribution scheme they went for here. With so many episodic games released recently, and sometimes up to 6 months (!) in between episodes, it's just normal for some players to be more hesitant and not going for the full package right away. Frankly, I don't see why you would punish the customers who would rather buy the episodes one at a time -- or, like me, buy one and then upgrade to Season Pass.
monkeymadness Feb 8, 2016 @ 9:52pm 
I think you hit quite a number of good points here. Here is why I think they ended up with this as you call "stupid and anti-consumer marketing/distribution scheme." In watching this game back in the day, when the game was about to come out I remember them telling people to order the complete collection before it came out and the epilogue would be included. The way it was worded made it seem like that was the only chance of getting it (probably a marketing scheme to get people to commit and buy the game, I almost did myself). Even if they were planning it that way they obviously have backed off to allowing it by buying the complete collection. They probably didn't see the complication that this would cause with steam on getting one or the other. At this point they probably figure they can still get some people to buy the complete collection because they are worried they might not be able to get the epilogue. In the end I think they will probably make it available to everyone when the epilogue actually comes out, but then again you never know. Either way I'm not going to sweat it.

Originally posted by Travis.touchdown:
Ultimately, the publisher(s) will have the final say in this, which would be Sierra and Activision.

As far as I know Sierra is just Activision. Activision is just using the name to market their games. Probably because they want people to think of Sierra and not Activision (I'm not a big fan of Activision presonally). Of all the companies to make a final decision on the epilogue issue, Activision is not on the top of my list of publishers that would make the smart decision. :)
Gabby Feb 9, 2016 @ 12:39am 
Originally posted by monkeymadness:
Activision is not on the top of my list of publishers that would make the smart decision. :)

Yet should be on all our minds as the ones that would make the decision that makes them the most money.
Travis.touchdown Feb 9, 2016 @ 7:42am 
Originally posted by monkeymadness:
As far as I know Sierra is just Activision. Activision is just using the name to market their games. Probably because they want people to think of Sierra and not Activision (I'm not a big fan of Activision presonally). Of all the companies to make a final decision on the epilogue issue, Activision is not on the top of my list of publishers that would make the smart decision. :)

Yes, I suspected as much. I don't know any in-depth specifics about Sierra's current operations, and Activision may, in fact, be using it as a mere vessel to cash in on nostalgia as you've implied. Yet in the end, whether that's the case or not, feels insubstantial to me, since everyone in their right mind would know that Sierra will never be Sierra without Roberta and Ken Williams anyway. To my knowledge, they are currently only supporting TOG as artistic advisors from time to time -- which is better than nothing, I guess. So far I'm really digging the art style and pacing of KQ 2015.

As for offering the Epilogue to Season Pass buyers: Given most major publishers' greedy nature I'm afraid that Activision may misinterpret 'give all Season Pass buyers access to the Epilogue' as 'give all Season Pass buyers access via additional payment.'

Now, let's assume the Epilogue actually featured substantial gameplay and length (at least 1 hour), then I might -- and that's a big "might" -- consider biting the bullet of spending another 2 or 3 dollars on it. But no way would I drop another 10 if Activision felt like treating it as a regular episodic release, pricewise. In actuality, I believe that having purchased the Season Pass should be commitment enough to receive the Epilogue for free, no questions asked.
Gabby Feb 9, 2016 @ 9:04am 
Activision purchased Sierra after it was already closed down. They simply took the name and IPs. The staff of the company is long since moved on or retired. There's no mystery here.
monkeymadness Feb 9, 2016 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by Travis.touchdown:
As for offering the Epilogue to Season Pass buyers: Given most major publishers' greedy nature I'm afraid that Activision may misinterpret 'give all Season Pass buyers access to the Epilogue' as 'give all Season Pass buyers access via additional payment.'

Unfortunately this is probably what it is going to be. And they probably won't do anything until after the epilogue is out.

Originally posted by Seraphna:
Activision purchased Sierra after it was already closed down. They simply took the name and IPs. The staff of the company is long since moved on or retired. There's no mystery here.

I don't think either of us were completely in the dark on this, but I wasn't about to spout off facts that I had no idea about. Once they took this over, I didn't know if they did anything with it.
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Sam Feb 11, 2016 @ 3:18pm 
FWIW, I got "complete" and in my library it just claims I have "Season Pass". I am not sure how they are tracking Complete versus Season Pass. This makes me wonder if perhaps they are going to give the epilogue to any Season Pass holders? Not confirmed, just a question to the devs that would be nice to have answered at some point.
Gabby Feb 11, 2016 @ 3:34pm 
They're four different packages in the Steam DB right now. When you buy Complete, you're tagged to have subscribed to the items "Kings Quest: Episode 1, Kings Quest Season Pass, and Kings Quest: Epilogue". However since the last item hasn't actually been entered as a product yet, it doesn't show. It probably will sometime in the future. The other four packages are seperate items, Episode 1, Episode 2, and Season Pass.

In short, you'll see it eventually if you bought Complete, the packages use your subscription purchase to determine what you own.

Cite: I'm a dev for another game, I just know how packages work.
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Dumb_Woof Feb 12, 2016 @ 2:57am 
The epilogue should've been included in the standard season pass from the beginning. I'm usually an optimist, but making an epilogue (that we have no idea how long it will take to complete) and only having it be avaliable if you buy a certain package is kind of lame.
Gabby Feb 12, 2016 @ 9:21am 
Epilogues are by definition a bonus, unless you're perscribing to the (uninformed) school that Epilogues ar the end of stories. In which case, I understand where you're coming from.
Kiriel Mar 27, 2016 @ 6:19pm 
Umm, where are you getting your definition of epilogue? The epilogue wraps up the story, loose ends, maybe gives some details how the characters end up. It is the end. In books I have never seen the epilogue released separately as a short story. It is alway the last chapter of the book.
Gabby Mar 27, 2016 @ 6:34pm 
I'm getting it from the actual meaning of the word. Not a definition people make up because that's what they think it means due to serious misuse.

And no, it should always follow the last chapter of a book, it shouldn't be the last chapter itself. There's a pretty big difference there.

Epilogue, or ἐπίλογος, is the junction of two terms, "in addition" (ἐπί-) and "to say" (λέγειν), quite literally meaning "in addition to the story". Much like the Prologue is not "Chapter 1", an Epilogue is not the final chapter of a story. It's meant to be a commentary or an addition to the story that was told in order to wrap up loose ends. It's mistakenly called the "final chapter" because it comes at the end, but contradicts how it's companion, the prologue, is not actually a chapter in the keeping.

The concept of an Epilogue can be stretched in a LOT of ways for what people need (ie, the whole argument people are making that it's going to be a key part of the story). However, the actual use of the term, especially as it's been explained by TOG, is an additional piece which wraps up some loose threads after the final chapter is done. An example would be Harry Potter. The last chapter was Harry coming back from killing Voldemort and viewing the destruction that had been wrought by the conflict. The epiligue took place over a decade later, showing how the kids had all grown up, gotten together, and had kids of their own. If you removed it, it would not change anything about the story, it just answers questions the reader has for the author after the story is complete.

So no, it's not always the last chapter of "the book" (odd use here considering this is a video game, not a book... and one should really say "a book"). An epilogue can be like National Lampoon's Animal House, where a montage of images and words explained what happens to the characters long after the story. It can be stretched out to even comment on events that happened before a story, such as the entire Godfather Part III, or it could be a simple scene set years after a plot finishes to tell us how people turned out. I'm pointing these out because Epilogues are used differently through different forms of media, many visually based mediums tend to treat the epilogue as they did in Greek Theater, where the play ends and someone comes out to comment after or make a joke. You also know these as "post-credit stings".

It is not however, important to the overall story. It doesn't even have to involve the story, an epilogue could be a completely different verse which comments upon what happened in a non-storytelling style. Sometimes it's a sudden shift from third to first person to allow a character to "speak freely" out of context to the plot.

I can go on and on... but trying to make a rule about epilogues that isn't even the actual definition of an epilogue is just bad taste.

You're trying to confine things to an unrelated medium, I'm trying to actually discuss the term as they're probably using it seeing as that this isn't a book.
Last edited by Gabby; Mar 27, 2016 @ 6:41pm
Dubsepp Apr 7, 2016 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by Dumb_Wolf:
The epilogue should've been included in the standard season pass from the beginning. I'm usually an optimist, but making an epilogue (that we have no idea how long it will take to complete) and only having it be avaliable if you buy a certain package is kind of lame.

i think i can remember that this WAS the case when i bought the season pass a year ago. Back then there was the option to buy every chapter individually but with NO epilogue or buying the season pass and getting the epilogue. I'm completely surprised that this changed now. I'm 95% sure that the epilogue was included in the season pass!
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Date Posted: Jan 22, 2016 @ 9:31am
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