Ice block palace puzzle without magic?

[Doesnotcompute83]

Is there a way to solve the ice palace that involves an ice pilar in the middle of the puzzle to be solved without magic? Thanks.

[Clord]

I got that puzzle twice. FIrst time around you need to let NPC to use his fire magic. Second time around the puzzle is still trivial even without his help.

[ThunderMonkey]

Very tricky, but also very possible. Most puzzled I figured out quick, but that one actually took me up around five minutes to figure out. Think that was the second hardest for me after the final puzzle room. (The chessboard arrow one with Valanice was a tad tricky, but got that one on the second try.)

[fallout_monkey]

Originally posted by Clord:

I got that puzzle twice. FIrst time around you need to let NPC to use his fire magic. Second time around the puzzle is still trivial even without his help.

Actually the puzzles are slightly different. The first one is impossible without the fire magic becuase the unmovable square on the left is one space higher than the second puzzle.

[󠀡󠀡aynhse]

The solution, without telling you the answer to the puzzle. Is to avoid bring any tiles infront of alexander. Use the left side path down only. You will only need a 1 tiles down there anyway, so once you get it down there you would never need to move that tile again.

[Dumb_Woof]

I spent probably 10-15 minutes trying to solve the first puzzle without magic because I thought Graham was being arrogant. I had no idea you had to make Alexander melt the ice until I moved over a block by accident.

[Doesnotcompute83]

Originally posted by fallout_monkey:

Originally posted by Clord:

I got that puzzle twice. FIrst time around you need to let NPC to use his fire magic. Second time around the puzzle is still trivial even without his help.

Actually the puzzles are slightly different. The first one is impossible without the fire magic becuase the unmovable square on the left is one space higher than the second puzzle.

That is true. I figured out that it was impossible to solve as I had the one piece puzzle isolated from the rest of the pieces and couldn't move the other puzzles out pass the iceblock due to not enough clearance. I realized it had to be part of the story and just to be sure, I checked the walkthroughs just on that part to see if there was an alternative way to solve without magic. I avoided this thread and the entire steam forums on the game until I beat it.

Originally posted by mirg:

The solution, without telling you the answer to the puzzle. Is to avoid bring any tiles infront of alexander. Use the left side path down only. You will only need a 1 tiles down there anyway, so once you get it down there you would never need to move that tile again.

Nice try on trolling. Even when you have that title down to Alexander, you can't even bring the other pieces pass the ice block as the lower left tile is impossible to move.

[Doesnotcompute83]

Originally posted by Dumb_Wolf:

I spent probably 10-15 minutes trying to solve the first puzzle without magic because I thought Graham was being arrogant. I had no idea you had to make Alexander melt the ice until I moved over a block by accident.

I was thinking that if you allow Alexander to solve the puzzles with magic, he would become more evil or more like Manny since that was Manny's original purpose of kidnapping Alexander iaccording to the start of the episode. Funny how that idea gets dropped midway through the episode when it was implied numerous times that Manny just kidnapped Alexander as a slave - like in the original canon