No borderless window mode... an explanation why! (Yes, it's serious!)

[Gabby]

So regulars on this forum will notice that a stubborn individual is now spamming the forum by deleting and recreating a thread any time anyone responds to him. In order to remove his childish attempt at controlling the conversation so pesky things like facts don't get in the way of his trolling, I'm taking charge! Go ahead and ignore his silly spam attempt.

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

No borderless window mode (aka. fake full screen) ... you serious?
I have 3 screens with random crap on them ... while playing I tend to tap out a lot because of that (though some game I play in suround) to do other stuff ...
But this game doesn't not only not support that, also none of my workarounds work since the game forces itself back to be bordered... (once you got the border removed it instantly pops back to have a border once the border is removed)
I haven't played this game till now, but that killed my mood to play it at all.
And that for a feature that is practically standard since 2012.

Update: I played the whole game now in a very crappy window, which ruined most of my fun.
Update2: This is just copy and paste

There's a simple reason why there is no borderless window mode: The version of the Unreal Engine that the game uses simply doesn't support it. The only fixes to date are very unstable workaround. As such, the game is made with native fullscreen in mind.

Now there is a solution, it might not work for all, but this handy program gets around the issue by creating a borderless window even that contains a fullscreen event.

http://westechsolutions.net/sites/WindowedBorderlessGaming/

Developers won't package this because it's unstable and as I said, doesn't work for everyone.

Now, there's no reason to complain or whine since the developer seriously can't do anything about this without remaking the entire game from the ground up in a new engine. At that point, someone being upset is just plain being unreasonable.

Now people can reply to him without him deleting their posts by proxy of his own.

[fallout_monkey]

I also find it funny he thinks the developers actually come to this forum

[Gabby]

Bumping to counter the troll.

[~* BiZZ Keryear *~]

This is the first and last time I answer here to this troll.

Originally posted by Seraphna:

So regulars on this forum will notice that a stubborn individual is now spamming the forum by deleting and recreating a thread any time anyone responds to him. [...]

1st it would be spam if I would NOT delete them.
2nd I am not the Troll. Recreating the thread is my way of dealing with the (YOU) trolls.
3rd I know YOU are the troll because you are not responding to ANY argument.
4th I take the challange, lets see who is more stubborn and who in the end gets more trouble for spamming. You with "bumbing up" (which is spamming by definition) your thread or I with recreating mine (which isn't spam).

Originally posted by Seraphna:

[...]As such, the game is made with native fullscreen in mind.[...]

At first I hadn't given much thought about it, so you managed me to insecure me.
But now I did my research (and while it is true that the Unreal Engine ís worst possible choice of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ engine ever) all your notions of fullscreen and scaled windows .... is just a bunch of BULLCRAP.

Originally posted by Seraphna:

[...]Now there is a solution, it might not work for all, but this handy program gets around the issue by creating a borderless window even that contains a fullscreen event.

http://westechsolutions.net/sites/WindowedBorderlessGaming/

Developers won't package this because it's unstable and as I said, doesn't work for everyone.
[...]

I said it before and I say it again this stupid program doesn't work at all. Not with this game or with any (at least in win 10)
I had written (way before making any post here) my own program to bring almost all in fake fullscreen and resize any window to any size I want.
This at least does something. It resizes the window and removes the border ...
but here come the thing that is bugging me the most the game is deliberately written in a way that it will reset the window if anything temperes with it.

Originally posted by Seraphna:

[...]Developers won't package this because it's unstable and as I said, doesn't work for everyone.[...]

As said, if they hadn't gone out of their way to make it deliberately impossible to create a sensible fake fullscreen*² it would be fine.

I liked the story of the game, but this is a no go. And I will not buy any other game (at least in near*) future of this developer (The Odd Gentlemen) and I will recommend this to everyone.

This game is also written with only consoles in mind, which you can see on the fact that a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ controller is the input device of chioce for this game.
The PC version is only a poor port. (And release date doesn't matter, it only matters which was it developed first and then ported to later, EVEN if both versions come out at same time ... bear in mind that PC games can be released immediately when they are done, while console games still take some time between they are done and the final release)

*=Till I (probably) have forgotten about this in a few years.
*²=I do have lastely found a way to bring it in a kinda fake fullscreen.
Step 1: Set up a virtual machine ...
Step 2: ??? (Install steam and game in VM)
Step 3: Profit! (Play game in fullscreen in VM which then does behave like fake fullscreen)
Still not a sensible way to do this ... for a whoooole loooooooooot of reasons.

[Gabby]

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

This is the first and last time I answer here to this troll.

Originally posted by Seraphna:

So regulars on this forum will notice that a stubborn individual is now spamming the forum by deleting and recreating a thread any time anyone responds to him. [...]

1st it would be spam if I would NOT delete them.

Sorry but wrong. It's still Spam. You're intentionally doing it to try and keep it at the top of the list and to remove all the responses that actually speak against yout.

2nd I am not the Troll. Recreating the thread is my way of dealing with the (YOU) trolls.

Except you've been spoken to with reason and logic. You're just trying to affirm yourself correct instead of actually deal with the fact that you are wrong.

3rd I know YOU are the troll because you are not responding to ANY argument.

Except I've responded to every one of your arguments. And by your own admission you are not responding to them and instead deleting them.

4th I take the challange, lets see who is more stubborn and who in the end gets more trouble for spamming. You with "bumbing up" (which is spamming by definition) your thread or I with recreating mine (which isn't spam).

I've already submitted reports to TOG, Sierra and Valve. The last one because deleting and recreating as a means to disguise bumping is a direct violation of the TOS. Good luck sir.

Originally posted by Seraphna:

[...]As such, the game is made with native fullscreen in mind.[...]

At first I hadn't given much thought about it, so you managed me to insecure me.
But now I did my research (and while it is true that the Unreal Engine ís worst possible choice of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ engine ever) all your notions of fullscreen and scaled windows .... is just a bunch of BULLCRAP.

Except it's not. You're welcome to present evidence though. You claiming something isn't the same thing as it being true.

Originally posted by Seraphna:

[...]Now there is a solution, it might not work for all, but this handy program gets around the issue by creating a borderless window even that contains a fullscreen event.

http://westechsolutions.net/sites/WindowedBorderlessGaming/

Developers won't package this because it's unstable and as I said, doesn't work for everyone.
[...]

I said it before and I say it again this stupid program doesn't work at all. Not with this game or with any (at least in win 10)

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I've been a Windows 10 user since Beta and it's worked with tons of programs.

I had written (way before making any post here) my own program to bring almost all in fake fullscreen and resize any window to any size I want.

Calling shenanigans. You can't even check an engines forums to see if a feature is supported or not. I'm supposed to expect you to write comprehensive code now?

This at least does something. It resizes the window and removes the border ...
but here come the thing that is bugging me the most the game is deliberately written in a way that it will reset the window if anything temperes with it.

It's actually not. You were given the explanation as to why that happens and it has nothing to do with deliberate coding or the game itself.

Originally posted by Seraphna:

[...]Developers won't package this because it's unstable and as I said, doesn't work for everyone.[...]

As said, if they hadn't gone out of their way to make it deliberately impossible to create a sensible fake fullscreen*² it would be fine.

You repeated a quote of mine twice just to restate a complete lie here.

I liked the story of the game, but this is a no go. And I will not buy any other game (at least in near*) future of this developer (The Odd Gentlemen) and I will recommend this to everyone.

No one here actually cares what you think at this point due to your repeated trolling, lies, and constantly deleting people's opinions whenever you don't like what you hear. You come off as a teenager who thinks the world revolves around him and can't admit to himself he doesn't know what he's talking about.

This game is also written with only consoles in mind, which you can see on the fact that a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ controller is the input device of chioce for this game.

Fallacy. A game being designed for controllers does not in fact mean it's meant for consoles. It means it's meant for controllers.

The PC version is only a poor port. (And release date doesn't matter, it only matters which was it developed first and then ported to later, EVEN if both versions come out at same time ... bear in mind that PC games can be released immediately when they are done, while console games still take some time between they are done and the final release)

Except the way it's coded clearly shows that it was made first for PC. If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have made up this argument.

*=Till I (probably) have forgotten about this in a few years.
*²=I do have lastely found a way to bring it in a kinda fake fullscreen.
Step 1: Set up a virtual machine ...
Step 2: ??? (Install steam and game in VM)
Step 3: Profit! (Play game in fullscreen in VM which then does behave like fake fullscreen)
Still not a sensible way to do this ... for a whoooole loooooooooot of reasons.

Except you already admitted to playing through the entire game in windowed.

Also your "whole lot of reasons" is actually just one reason. You don't want to do it. Nor did you actually have to.

[Gabby]

And you deleted and remade your thread yet again. Proving my point.

Also, trying to claim I'm "spamming" by bumping a relevant thread when you're literally spamming while trying to hide it with thread deletes is about the most hilarious claim I've seen on the Steam forums all week. And again, Steam forums. You have to try to be that special.

[Gabby]

As a special treat, since he's now trying to bully people to stop challenging him by literally threatening to delete his posts, they'll all be archived here so he can't control the conversation. :)

[Gabby]

Originally posted by rognik:

No one is trying to engage you in conversation, but every time you post, someone is going to respond and tell you that none of the development teal is going to read this and bother to fix this. Feel free to post and delete this a million times, it will only make you more frustrated.

Also, why not just play it full screen? It makes it a lot easier to see all the details.

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Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

OK, first off my fight with the troll(s) are't over, yet so this might get deleted at any time.

Originally posted by rognik:

No one is trying to engage you in conversation, but every time you post, [...]

... I get a troll reply from the same troll.

Originally posted by rognik:

[...]none of the development teal is going to read this and bother to fix this.[...]

Then this game deserves a bad review and the developer not any money from me (or anybody else), since he clearly doesn't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about their customers.

Originally posted by rognik:

[...]Feel free to post and delete this a million times, it will only make you more frustrated.[...]

From the little I have read (stopped reading responses from a particular person ... which I highly suspect to be a SJW ... for a lot of reason, not this forum or any posts in it) it seems more that I annoy the heck out of this person.

Originally posted by rognik:

[...]Also, why not just play it full screen? It makes it a lot easier to see all the details.

How the F is it supposed to do it (in opposite to fake fullscreen)? You know that fake fullscreen and fullscreen is the same size, right?
The only diffrenece is that if I play in full screen I only can utilize 1/3 of my screen space, in opposite to fake fullscreen where I can use 100% ... though, the game stays at 1/3.

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Originally posted by rognik:

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

OK, first off my fight with the troll(s) are't over, yet so this might get deleted at any time.

Deleting the thread because of a troll is not the answer. Ignoring the troll is. Let the idiotic reply sit there and have other people judge the merits of it for themselves.

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

Then this game deserves a bad review and the developer not any money from me (or anybody else), since he clearly doesn't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about their customers.

And that is within your right. I freely admit this game is not for everyone.

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

How the F is it supposed to do it (in opposite to fake fullscreen)? You know that fake fullscreen and fullscreen is the same size, right?
The only diffrenece is that if I play in full screen I only can utilize 1/3 of my screen space, in opposite to fake fullscreen where I can use 100% ... though, the game stays at 1/3.

Maybe you're selecting the wrong mode. When I start up my game, it takes up the entire screen and I don't see a window border anywhere. Sadly, this technical aspect is not my strength. I *think* if you right-click the game in the library mode, you can choose a different resolution, but I could be entirely wrong here.

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Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

How the F is it supposed to do it (in opposite to fake fullscreen)? You know that fake fullscreen and fullscreen is the same size, right?
The only diffrenece is that if I play in full screen I only can utilize 1/3 of my screen space, in opposite to fake fullscreen where I can use 100% ... though, the game stays at 1/3.

Maybe you're selecting the wrong mode. When I start up my game, it takes up the entire screen and I don't see a window border anywhere. Sadly, this technical aspect is not my strength. I *think* if you right-click the game in the library mode, you can choose a different resolution, but I could be entirely wrong here.

It doesn't have fake fullscreen, so I do have a border ... that is waht my anger is about.
However if I use fullscreen I can only use one of three screens which I have. I don't have 3 screens just for show, I do use them (even while playing) for all sorts of stuff. I tend to hop out of and into a game roughly every 5 minutes in average (from as short as 1 minute to as long as 15 minutes). I chat, play music, browse the web, check the charge on my headphones, and tons of other stuff. I even have several games open at same time, sometimes.
But minimizing fullscreen apps (which you do if you tab out) always had and has the risk that the app hangs / crashes. Also for reasons windowed apps seem to run faster on my system than fullscreen ones ....

Originally posted by wilco64256:

I just love the logical conclusion reached here: "The developers aren't putting all their resources into fixing my extremely obscure non-game-breaking issue, therefore they don't care about anyone and anybody who disagrees with me or points out my stupidity is a troll."

Just fascinating.

Either a troll or stupid/blind. Stupid/blind because that person even didn't bother to do any research, because if it had, it would know that they also didn't bother to add in the abibilty to skip animations / dialogs in the first episode.
It is possible from the 2nd on, and it would literally literally take one programmer 5 minutes to add that in in the first as well. Though not for consoles ... Games (and updates) for consoles have to go through a tedious verification program by the console manufacturer. (Hence I always said even though both came out same time the console version was programmed first and later ported to PC).

And harrsing me here only will lead to deleting and starting over.

[Gabby]

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

It doesn't have fake fullscreen, so I do have a border ... that is waht my anger is about.

You mean Borderless Windowed Mode. Sorry, let's keep track of your argument or people are going to start seeing that you're the actual troll here.

However if I use fullscreen I can only use one of three screens which I have. I don't have 3 screens just for show, I do use them (even while playing) for all sorts of stuff. I tend to hop out of and into a game roughly every 5 minutes in average (from as short as 1 minute to as long as 15 minutes). I chat, play music, browse the web, check the charge on my headphones, and tons of other stuff. I even have several games open at same time, sometimes.

Most of those things you mentioned would still be visible on your other monitors with no need to tab out of the game, such as checking a charge, etc. Why you would intentionally deminish your game by overriding the sound with your own music is beyond me, but it sort of helps give people the picture that you weren't actually trying to enjoy the game to begin with.

Your argument is that you have ADD?

But minimizing fullscreen apps (which you do if you tab out) always had and has the risk that the app hangs / crashes. Also for reasons windowed apps seem to run faster on my system than fullscreen ones ....

It's cute that you show you have zero knowledge of how Windows 10 actually works.

Originally posted by wilco64256:

I just love the logical conclusion reached here: "The developers aren't putting all their resources into fixing my extremely obscure non-game-breaking issue, therefore they don't care about anyone and anybody who disagrees with me or points out my stupidity is a troll."

Just fascinating.

Either a troll or stupid/blind. Stupid/blind because that person even didn't bother to do any research, because if it had, it would know that they also didn't bother to add in the abibilty to skip animations / dialogs in the first episode.

1. You're referring to me as "a troll", and your very first time you made this thread, I'm the one who pointed out to you that they added the feature in after the first chapter. Which is why you're specifying now that they only didn't add the feature into the first chapter instead of claiming it doesn't exist at all in the game, which was your original claim.

2. "Troll" isn't stupid. "Troll" has caught you lying on multiple occasions and just plain outright wrong about some things. You delete your thread every time this happens.

It is possible from the 2nd on, and it would literally literally take one programmer 5 minutes to add that in in the first as well.

Not literally. If you actually think that you're proving beyond a shadow of any doubt that you know absolutely nothing about programming or the engine the game is programmed in.

Though not for consoles ... Games (and updates) for consoles have to go through a tedious verification program by the console manufacturer. (Hence I always said even though both came out same time the console version was programmed first and later ported to PC).

Actually most companies that simultaneously make games tend to hold the PC release off until the console verifications pass. And this is only relevant if you game is exclusively a personally hosted or Steam release since other gaming services, like GoG, have an approval process that is just as intensive if not more so than any console company.

And harrsing me here only will lead to deleting and starting over.

Don't worry. I'm now saving all the posts in your threads in mine so people can follow your insane argument and see you for what you actually are.

[Gabby]

Originally posted by ~* BiZZ Keryear *~:

Originally posted by wilco64256:

Clear evidence you don't have any clue what you're talking about. This idea that it would take one programmer five minutes to modify the entire first episode to allow for dialogue skipping is utter nonsense. And that's me speaking from actual experience trying to do that very thing after making dialogue in one game skippable and then trying to go back to a prior entry and apply it to that one as well. It's not as easy as flipping a switch, all kind of unexpected things go wrong. But feel free to continue displaying your immense ignorance. Those of us who actually know what we're talking about are enjoying the show.

Ever heard of a "replace all" in editors? and now blush in shame.
The function is already written, and only in worst case it has to be implemented to each diaolog ... but only if the game is written in worst possible way.

[wilco64256]

I don't actually think he can delete the other one now, isn't there a limit to how many replies a thread can have before you can self-delete it?

[Gabby]

I think so. :) So really if we want to really screw him over in his attempts to control, just keep replying.

You get the point of my thread. It's to rob him of his attempt to control the conversation and keep him from trolling people with his nonsense.