Is transmuting three of same weapon EVER worth it?

[By-Tor And The Snow Cat]

Hey, everyone! Since downloading VV earlier this week, it has quickly become my favorite game. I recently started trasnmuting things, but I've only taken three of the same weapon and transmuted them into one (supposedly) superior weapon of the same kind twice.

"Why haven't you done it more", I can hear you asking, as you sit in your comfy chair in front of the computer, absolutely enraptured by my glorious prose describing my activities in a videogame. Well, because both of the times I've tried this, I just ended up with a new weapon that seemed to be either of equal or even lesser worth to me (by "worth," I don't mean value in gold; rather, I'm describing the weapon's combination of damage, crit, properties, etc.). Is this what often happens? Is taking three weapons and transmuting them into a new one even worth gambling on? I mean, how often does your new weapon turn out to be, essentially, crap?

I was expecting to get something far better than any of the three weapons I used as ingredients when I did this, but instead it seems like you're just rolling the dice and there's an excellent chance that your new weapon could actually be worse than one or even all of the three you used as ingredients.

So, is all of this just rare, or maybe just a matter of perception on my part? What gives? And, more importantly, what's your overall advice when it comes to transmutation in general?

[Telzen]

Its not supposed to be better. It has a chance to be a higher tier. 3 yellows have a chance at becoming a lengendary.

[waterworrier]

3 white/grey weapons become a green.
3 green weapons become either another green or a gold/yellow.
3 gold/yellow weapons commonly become another gold but have a rare chance to become a purple legendary.

If you are going for a certain type of legendary, it is random what you get regardless of components used.

From my experience with it, weapon stats are completely random when transmuting. While 3 of the same type of weapon will make a new weapon of that type (aside from legendary), it will still be just random stats. Several times I have gotten weapons with 2 armor piercing properties and nothing else. Other times they are cursed (minimum gold drops). Rarely will I get a combination that I would need at the time though.

If you want somthing specific, just outright buy it from a shop. Much more expensive, but you get what you want without gambling for it.

[Koukdw]

Considering the lack of use for money, yes it is. I do that all the time, it's still better than selling them and gain money that you will never use.

I got alot of legendary from that.

[Luna Fate]

Combine all weapons all the time in hopes of legendaries!

[Cyxe]

I realize this is a bit late, but for anyone else who comes across this thread, perhaps this advice may help:

If you're just starting out in the game, hold onto the weapon with the highest base damage and your favorite secondary stats, crit, crit damage, lifesteal, whatever your build needs. So let's say you have 3 Rare swords and one of them happens to be the one you use, just wait until you get a 4th Rare sword and transmute the 3 swords you don't intend on using. The patience is worth the pain of losing a really good weapon.

There's good reasons to keep a choice weapon of every type lying around. For starters, some Map Achievements require killing monsters with a specific weapon type. Also, some boss fights may be easier with a different weapon than one you normally clear trash with.

Also, I've yet to find a reason not to Transmute lesser Cards into better cards unless it is Divine or Wicked with a killer bonus.

I'd hang onto Demon powers because I've transmuted a lot and I've found it's really not worth it. In the end, you can instead use them to upgrade weapons using Transmute with your weapon in the main slot and 3 required powers in the transmute slots.

Hope that helps someone

[xylt]

Originally posted by Cyxe:

If you're just starting out in the game, hold onto the weapon with the highest base damage and your favorite secondary stats, crit, crit damage, lifesteal, whatever your build needs.

the problem with this however is that only legendary weapons lvl up with you.
so this works for rare only for a few levels (depends on how good you are with this weapon kind). then you'll most likely find weapons of the same kind with a higher base and maximum dmg.
when you put a weapo into the base transmutation slot you can see its lvl. (except for legs)

[zinfinion]

All weapons can be leveled up by combining 3 of the same rarity weapon with the weapon you desire to level up.

For example, I made a Cursed/Devestating/Assassin sword at around level 36, and every two levels I would put it in the top slot, and any three yellow weapons in the bottom three slots and upgrade the sword to my current level.

Even though the damage bar looks completely full, this works.

Obviously after you get it to 50 it becomes selling scrap weapons for cash as needed, and trying to get legendaries out of hte rest.

[Ichthyic]

I started this game yesterday, just hit level 16 a half hour ago. Looked up threads on transmuting. found this one. Saw the comments on legendaries from rares with really low chance.

had 3 rares to spare. figured... what the hell. it's probably only a 1% chance or something but, none of the rares had what I want on them so...

*bing*

1st try, legendary.

Scoundrel Rapier.

I have no clue if it made any difference, but I was holding a weapon that had the "extraordinary luck" property on it.

bottom line... gambling is gambling. if you have rares you don't need to boost other rares with... give it a shot.

[Ichthyic]

Originally posted by zinfinion:

All weapons can be leveled up by combining 3 of the same rarity weapon with the weapon you desire to level up.

For example, I made a Cursed/Devestating/Assassin sword at around level 36, and every two levels I would put it in the top slot, and any three yellow weapons in the bottom three slots and upgrade the sword to my current level.

Even though the damage bar looks completely full, this works.

Obviously after you get it to 50 it becomes selling scrap weapons for cash as needed, and trying to get legendaries out of hte rest.

good tip, thanks. so it's a good way to keep leveling none legendary weapons as you level.

[Alientcp]

A bit late now, i just got the game, but this is what i found.

Transmute 3 common weapons --> 1 green. But thats it, thats the only one that gains rarity for sure.

Transmute 3 green, you MIGHT get a yellow, but usually a green. Rinse and repeat for next rarity.

The best you can do, or at least what i recommend is to get a yellow with high stats and attributes. You put that one in the top slot and you use another 3 yellows at the bottom, this will increase the base damage slightly.

Demon powers works similar, but slightly different.

Again, 3 dp common will upgrade to a green, rest is the same as the weapons.
The difference however is that if you have, for instance, 4 green dp. Check the base stats. You put the one with the highest stats at the top, and you use the other 3 at the bottom. This will upgrade the base stats of the DP. But, each rarity has minimum and maximum levels. If you upgrade the base stat of the DP and you happen to pass that level, the DP upgrades in rarity. If not, you will have better base stats in your newly transmuted DP. You will have to upgrade that one again until it passes the mark. This is how you get legendary DP outside random drops, which are extremely rare.

I would recommend to save green and above DP to upgrade into better rarity, use the white ones to increase a specific trait of the weapons.

[HiImTye]

it's only worth saving your yellow demon powers to upgrade. sort your demon powers by cost, type, then rarity, then combine your highest cost yellow with your three lowest cost yellows of the same type and you will likely get a purple. the rest is transmutation fodder

edit: remember that you get a net loss if you're transmuting to purple to use it as transmutation fodder. every purple gives you a ~1% increase, but it takes 4 yellows to make a purple. 3 purples = ~4%, 3 yellows = 1%, 4 yellows = 1 purple, so you're losing a yellow to transmute a purple into a weapon. save your purples for adding properties to weapons, or upgrading demon powers or armor

[kiradox]

sell whites and greens trans the yellow ones to get purples its worth it in my opinion specialy since some purple weapons have effects that help with chalenges