How to clean up hussitism?

[Akry]

Short AAR
Playing as Austria, Bohemia become hussite. Hussite wars start. Forced into war by an event.
Beat Bohemia into unconditional surrender.
Covert cost is 104, so I chose supress. about 40% of the pop become catholic again. Bohemia is now majority catholic but the official religion is still hussite.
Truce is 15 yers.
End of truce Bohemia pop is again majority hussite. its like the previous war never happened.
beat them again into uncoditional surrender. Now convert cost is 96.
Bohemia becomes catholic, hussite war ends I win.
2 years later Bohemia converts back into hussitism, because the majority pop is hussite.
Because the situation ended there is no longer a tribunal action nor a supress treaty.

What am I missing here? How is one suppose to clean up the heresy?

[tonypa]

I don't think there is more, you can not force-convert their country, only the ruler.

[Krossof]

Originally posted by Akry:

Short AAR
Playing as Austria, Bohemia become hussite. Hussite wars start. Forced into war by an event.
Beat Bohemia into unconditional surrender.
Covert cost is 104, so I chose supress. about 40% of the pop become catholic again. Bohemia is now majority catholic but the official religion is still hussite.
Truce is 15 yers.
End of truce Bohemia pop is again majority hussite. its like the previous war never happened.
beat them again into uncoditional surrender. Now convert cost is 96.
Bohemia becomes catholic, hussite war ends I win.
2 years later Bohemia converts back into hussitism, because the majority pop is hussite.
Because the situation ended there is no longer a tribunal action nor a supress treaty.

What am I missing here? How is one suppose to clean up the heresy?

i would release a lot of nations from bohemia and take the rest of it as a subject - gold, silver, iron rgo are mine

But lore-gameplay not possible atm. they change it like what ever

[Akry]

Started a new game, this time I made sure to use the tribunal on every province when they are fully occupied. used the supress hussitism treaty 2 times.
By the end of the 3rd war they only had 350k hussite pops out of 1,9 million.
This time I converted them. Won the hussite wars, situation ended.
2 years pass by, they converted back again. They aleady have 800k hussite pops.

What the actual f is this mechanic?

[Krossof]

Originally posted by Akry:

Started a new game, this time I made sure to use the tribunal on every province when they are fully occupied. used the supress hussitism treaty 2 times.
By the end of the 3rd war they only had 350k hussite pops out of 1,9 million.
This time I converted them. Won the hussite wars, situation ended.
2 years pass by, they converted back again. They aleady have 800k hussite pops.

What the actual f is this mechanic?

i assume bohemia has events that boost the swap or rebells and they accept thier demand.

either way. the best solution is to take pop away from the hussite center (bohemia).
one game bohemia had 1.8m pop and i took 350-600k pop each war as brandenburg. you can also give provinces to other countries too, if AE is a topic.

solution aside.

yea it sucks, that the event is still not in a good chape, but i prefer to play EU5 2025 not 2030 :/

[Nekro990]

If you are an emperor you can ask them to change their religion. It is a workaround but it worked in my game.

[Akry]

Originally posted by Nekro990:

If you are an emperor you can ask them to change their religion. It is a workaround but it worked in my game.

I cant. When they flip back there is a 20 year CD on it.

[Noname]

I'm playing as Poland now on beta branch, and the Hussite Wars are a terrible experience.

Austria is emperor of HRE and is defending Bohemia from any war declarations. There is no way to attack them without cheesing it by allying with Austria and calling them to a different war before declaring war on Bohemia. Otherwise Austria and all Austrian allies will defend Husite Bohemia from external HRE threats.

After the initial scripted war where Austria asked me to join to fight Bohemia, there are no more wars against Hussites. Austria and Bohemia sit there forever, and the situation ends in Hussites victory. Austria gets free CB, uses it once, and then sits doing nothing, even with 75% strength on its side. I wanted to use Hussite wars to conquer more of Silesia and Bohemia as Poland, but the emperor in Austria that has beef with Hussites is defending them from me rather than joining me in that war as my ally to crush them. AI decisions weight in that situation is bad, and overall AI can't handle situations too well. Without player input, AI does nothing for most of the time.

There is still a lot of work for Paradox to balance everything out and to make it make some sense.

If you want to convert Hussites so they never come back, the best way to do it in the current state of the game is to conquer Bohemia and release it as your fiefdom or control it directly and use advisors to convert Hussites. Doing any diplomacy is pointless. For most of the time, AI flips back their culture or religion anyway.

[Krozan]

Originally posted by Noname:

I'm playing as Poland now on beta branch, and the Hussite Wars are a terrible experience.

Austria is emperor of HRE and is defending Bohemia from any war declarations. There is no way to attack them without cheesing it by allying with Austria and calling them to a different war before declaring war on Bohemia. Otherwise Austria and all Austrian allies will defend Husite Bohemia from external HRE threats.

After the initial scripted war where Austria asked me to join to fight Bohemia, there are no more wars against Hussites. Austria and Bohemia sit there forever, and the situation ends in Hussites victory. Austria gets free CB, uses it once, and then sits doing nothing, even with 75% strength on its side. I wanted to use Hussite wars to conquer more of Silesia and Bohemia as Poland, but the emperor in Austria that has beef with Hussites is defending them from me rather than joining me in that war as my ally to crush them. AI decisions weight in that situation is bad, and overall AI can't handle situations too well. Without player input, AI does nothing for most of the time.

There is still a lot of work for Paradox to balance everything out and to make it make some sense.

If you want to convert Hussites so they never come back, the best way to do it in the current state of the game is to conquer Bohemia and release it as your fiefdom or control it directly and use advisors to convert Hussites. Doing any diplomacy is pointless. For most of the time, AI flips back their culture or religion anyway.

It's true it's a mess, but you can still do some diplomatic stuff.

Just get the Austrian alliance to take favors up to +20 and make them break the alliance with Bohemia.