Cyberpunk 3776
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Obligatory Bundle Keys Thread
This was in Groupees Build a Greenlight 8. When will you provide Steam keys?
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phannDOTde  [developer] Mar 24, 2015 @ 8:32am 
Thanks for asking! All previouse Buyers will recieve a Steamkey via Desura within ~4 Weeks. I'm sorry for the delay but since there are so many Steam Key Resellers out there that resell the Bundle Keys where I as a developer dont see a dime from I currently dont see any other option to protect the Steam release. However - EVERYONE who bought the game earlier will get his personal Steamkey just a little patience and I hope you guys got a little empathy for me as an Indie dev trying to protect my work.

Good luck out there Pilots of Doom :-)
Peter
Autumonium Bundle by PlayInjector
The Debut 16 Bundle by Indie Royale
Build a Greenlight Bundle 8 by Groupees

Also lots of people have been saying this in delaying keys, so is there a webpage or anything that states this? I'm just curious to read it or if it's just an excuse honestly.

This isn't your fault, but I was curious because you seem like a nice guy but I've never heard of these key resellers that resell non AAA games...

I would honestly love to read articles about it or the data.
phannDOTde  [developer] Mar 24, 2015 @ 10:07am 
Just google for Cheap Keys and Cyberpunk 3776 there are enough to make me worry about it. I will look further down the line to provide the Keys to all of you guys as soon as possible without harming the Steam release.
Odd Cryptid Mar 24, 2015 @ 12:27pm 
I was surprised to see the game on my steam page cause I was looking at my greenlight bundles like yesterday and didn't see this getting a key on Groupees, not going to rush you ar anything, I'm just happy to see the game on steam since it is a ton of fun :)
ferret Mar 24, 2015 @ 12:28pm 
+1 to dev, good luck with your release and I'll wait for my key patiently :]
Schutn Mar 24, 2015 @ 4:34pm 
Aye, hats off for the dev. This is how you make a statement about providing keys :)
I don't see it, but google tailors its searches based on similar searches so i'll take your word for it. Thanks for being so kind about this talk.
The Laughing Man Mar 25, 2015 @ 9:42am 
I personally don't need the key right away for i don't know when i'll get a chance to even play it, but i find it dissapointing that all devs play victim to being incorporated into a bundle to promote their greenlight release.

If bundles are so bad for indie developers, then why do they participate in them?
SlyAceZeta Mar 25, 2015 @ 10:56am 
So, if I understand the dev's posts correctly, only those who purchased the game through Desura will get the Steam key.

While I understand the whole problem of key resellers and SteamGifts for indie devs (it's something I'm worried about, as someone who wants to get into indie development, just looking at people like Luke 10:17-20 over there is scaring me), a deal was a deal and we did purchase the bundle with the belief that we would get a free Steam key upon release.
ACWraith Mar 25, 2015 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by SlyCooperFan1:
So, if I understand the dev's posts correctly, only those who purchased the game through Desura will get the Steam key.

You don't understand the dev's post correctly.

The keys will be distributed via Desura. The bundles should have given out Desura keys. (Groupees did. Indie Royale always does because it's tied to Desura anyway. I don't know much about PlayInjector.) Activate the game on Desura. After Steam keys have been distributed, hover over the game on your Desura Collection page and click the Keys button to display your Steam key.
The Laughing Man Mar 25, 2015 @ 11:14am 
Luke 10:17-20, i understand WHY developers do it, it is a great way to get your name out there...but if you are going to go that route, you should commit to it, and NOT feel as if you are a victim of circumstance. Going in, you should know people are going to resell your keys, and that sucks real bad...but it's just how it is.

If you put yourself in a bundle, be prepared for those ♥♥♥♥♥♥ consequences. But i can't feel sorry for someone who does put themselves into a bunch of bundles and then claim that they are not seeing any money from the resellers. Realistically...they OWN the keys and they paid for them, so the developer got paid...even if it is just a small fraction of what their game is worth.

If i look back, i own three copies of this game through 3 different bundles...i paid for 3 copies, and i'm going to want 3 steam keys. Of those three keys, i will give them out as giveaways on my Twitch or to friends. I'm sorry it happened this way, but in the end...i want what i paid for. Had they only been in one bundle, then i would only have one personal key to use.

I see it kind of similar to someone who sleeps around to get to the top of their music career, and once they are at the top they look back and say: "I didn't realize what i was doing with all the coke and sex...i'm a victim." You put yourself in that situation to achieve what you want...now that you are at the top, you can't look back and blame everyone for what got you in the industry in the first place. You chose to go that route, because you had little faith in yourself.
phannDOTde  [developer] Mar 25, 2015 @ 11:27am 
@Laughing Man I dont agree with your comparision and it is close to be offending, but your right at your point of demanding what you had payed for plus I dont see myself as victim or meant to imply that - that said I will repeat myself and pronounce again EVERYONE who bought the game on any bundle or throug any store will get a Steam key, BUT they will be a little delayed.
The Laughing Man Mar 25, 2015 @ 11:28am 
I appologize, it was a broad statement, and not directed towards you specifically. I was just joining the discussion at hand.

I'm excited to play your game, i don't use Desura, so i always wait until i have a Steam Key.

Originally posted by phannDOTde:
@Laughing Man I dont agree with your comparision and it is close to be offending, but your right at your point of demanding what you had payed for plus I dont see myself as victim or meant to imply that - that said I will repeat myself and pronounce again EVERYONE who bought the game on any bundle or throug any store will get a Steam key, BUT they will be a little delayed.
Last edited by The Laughing Man; Mar 25, 2015 @ 11:29am
SlyAceZeta Mar 25, 2015 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by phannDOTde:
EVERYONE who bought the game on any bundle or throug any store will get a Steam key, BUT they will be a little delayed.
This is what I was looking for, that clears it up. Thank you very much.
JohannZA Mar 28, 2015 @ 12:08pm 
The keys should not be distributed via Desura.

The keys should be distributed via the sites who sold the game pre-release.

In other words, like Laughing Man said, each copy (bought from whomever) should yield one Steam key. If they are distributed via Desura, it means people like myself (and Laughing Man) will in fact not receive all of the keys we are owed.

The seems like an obvious thing.
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