WHY THE HELL IS THE FIRE MOTH RAISING ITS HAND LIKE IT’S IN CLASS

[khajiit]

OK SERIOUSLY PGI WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL IS THIS. I WAS SO READY FOR THE FIRE MOTH, THOUGHT “HEY COOL A FAST CLAN MECH, GONNA ZOOM AROUND AND BE A MENACE” AND THEN YOU GO AND DROP THIS???

WHY. WHY IS ITS ARM UP THERE. WHAT IS IT DOING. DOES IT NEED HELP. IS IT WAVING AT A DROPSHIP. IS IT TRYING TO HIGH FIVE GOD. THIS ISN’T A MECH IT’S A DAMN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. I CAN’T. I CAN’T. I GO TO LOOK AT IT IN THE MECH LAB AND I’M JUST LOSING IT. I CAN HEAR IT IN MY HEAD GOING “UM EXCUSE ME TEACHER I KNOW THE ANSWER” WHILE EVERY OTHER ‘MECH LOOKS LIKE THEY’RE READY FOR WAR.

LIKE I GET IT OKAY SOME ‘MECHS HAVE WEIRD ARM STUFF GOING ON BUT THIS IS NEXT LEVEL. IT LOOKS LIKE IT’S TRYING TO HAIL A CAB IN THE MIDDLE OF A BATTLEFIELD. IS THERE A BUS STOP I’M NOT SEEING??

I CANNOT BELIEVE I WAITED FOR THIS JUST TO BE HANDED A ‘MECH THAT LOOKS LIKE IT’S PERFORMING A DRAMATIC ANIME POSE AT ALL TIMES. I SWEAR IF IT STARTS SPINNING AROUND AND SHOUTING ATTACK NAMES I’M DONE.

PGI PLEASE. PLEASE. JUST LET THE POOR THING LOWER ITS ARM. I CAN’T LIVE LIKE THIS.

[Shade]

The fire moth has always had overhead arms, In fact the clans seem to like silly pointless arms and hands. Reminder that the Nova mech usually has minimal torso rotation so why it even bothers to have hands and arms to pick things up is silly to me. I've also found the little Shadow cat arms to be silly looking and pointless.

Simply imagine any mechs in the game trying to throw a punch or pick something off the ground and either you'll be really confused on why the mech even bothers with having hands or chuckle at the idea of a mech using it's tiny little T-Rex arms to flail at the enemy.

[Heretic]

consider the point of fire on your weapons will originate at above your view level, now imagine that you can corner and hill peek. Arms at your sides puts you at a disadvantage on hilly terrain, arms above, and your lasers easily clear the obstacles.
...it does look goofy as ♥♥♥♥ though.

[Deviantdemigodz]

Well it goes clear back to the 1950 era when books and movies all had robots with arms to try to make them more human like even when Gundam and Battletech was first made many of the robots had arms on a lot of mech models. Then came mechwarrior 1 the mechs had blocky little arms on most of the mechs and it continues until today in most modern mech games.

I think there are many models in MWO that would benefit from no arms and a sleeker design.

https://www.pinterest.com/mpetrui/non-humanoid-robotsmechs/

https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/gundam

[Lord Borzoi]

One didn't punch enemy battlemechs back in the day. You both took damage then.

You picked up a severed limb, preferably a leg, and used it as a bludgeon. If I recall correctly legs did 12 points of damage. (It may have been weight class based.)

It was a classic fallback if you ran out of ammo and your lasers were down.

[de.lorca]

if you are looking for realistic warfare maybe you shud try arma

[Lord Borzoi]

Originally posted by de.lorca:

if you are looking for realistic warfare maybe you shud try arma

In the pre-video game days, folks that tried to overcomplicate games like D&D were advised to "go play Stalingrad".(by Avalon Hill games)

Same concept, different generation.

[de.lorca]

Originally posted by Lord Borzoi:

Originally posted by de.lorca:

if you are looking for realistic warfare maybe you shud try arma

In the pre-video game days, folks that tried to overcomplicate games like D&D were advised to "go play Stalingrad".(by Avalon Hill games)

Same concept, different generation.

I didn't really want to be that disrespectfull like you don't need to like the désign for the new light mech I am not a fan either but then he wrote an entire post with cap lock on about how unrealistic mech hands are and I just facepalm...

[Zyrrashijn]

The design is true to its canonical Battletech description. End of story.
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Fire_Moth_(Dasher)

[waldo]

An actual tank has it's weapons on the top, as the ground is not flat and it's objective is to seek protection via the existing horizon of sight. You can shoot at the horizon from the top of the vehicle easier than from the side or lower than the line of sight. This is not relevant in close up brawls but longer distance fighting always includes the terrain you hide behind.

Case in point

A cheetah with the two overhead mounts is a great jump snipe without exposing the entire mechs body to enemy fire and can hide that from the enemy while shooting it.

[Fastspectre]

Originally posted by Shade:

The fire moth has always had overhead arms, In fact the clans seem to like silly pointless arms and hands. Reminder that the Nova mech usually has minimal torso rotation so why it even bothers to have hands and arms to pick things up is silly to me. I've also found the little Shadow cat arms to be silly looking and pointless.

Simply imagine any mechs in the game trying to throw a punch or pick something off the ground and either you'll be really confused on why the mech even bothers with having hands or chuckle at the idea of a mech using it's tiny little T-Rex arms to flail at the enemy.

shadow cat arms silly???
so jeager mech, rifleman and rifleman II c arms are silly too?
shadowcat is parctically the same as those 3 heavys, idk why they put a hand on it...

as you said most mechs wouldn't even really be able to pick anything off the ground
maybe they could throw punches, but that never got implemented because PGI couldn't programm melee... lol....

tho that firemoth looks silly AF

[ExplosiveBolts]

The fire moth has been like this since its inception decades ago. Why are you suddenly complaining about this now? Also why would you not want high slung arms?

[107.bigpoppa.107]

Imagine complaining about a lore accurate mech in a Mechwarrior game....

[Bob]

Think you forgot your caps lock was on.

[Dracul]

Its canonical but honestly, realistically all mechs should have their arms up high or have Blood Asp like shoulder guns so be grateful that aesthetics won out over practicality. Imagine if we did this in the real world, modern tanks wouldn't have turrets they would have their guns mounted alongside their treads :p

[Lord Borzoi]

King Crab has good torso guns too.