ECM DIRE/TIMBER, Thoughts?

[JC]

It makes me wonder if with the buffs coming to them if it will be like Clan invasion? While i doubt it will be that good, but it kinda feels like it might swing that way. The good news is all the other timbers and dires will be buffed too so i don't wanna hear the whole PTW crap, but boy does more ECM on the field mean more narcers and tagers will be a big help, along with just more direct fire weaposn. I think i just might have to roll out my SRM+narc kintaro for this one.

while the IS booster was ho hum, they are still pretty solid mechs, the snub brawler thunderbolt and the heavy Sniper dragon are both fun. the next one though i think is taking it up a notch. Damn clanners always getting the good stuff!

[joebeard]

Inner Sphere has been the dominant side for a long time now, and after the recent patch they became even stronger. I don't think ECM Timby/Dire Whale will be over powered, but it can't hurt can it? Even with massive agility buffs both Mechs are extraordinarily fragile because of their easily isolated hit boxes (ST for Timby, CT for Whale). It's going to be a good year for the game I think.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Originally posted by JC:

It makes me wonder if with the buffs coming to them if it will be like Clan invasion? While i doubt it will be that good, but it kinda feels like it might swing that way. The good news is all the other timbers and dires will be buffed too so i don't wanna hear the whole PTW crap, but boy does more ECM on the field mean more narcers and tagers will be a big help, along with just more direct fire weaposn. I think i just might have to roll out my SRM+narc kintaro for this one.

while the IS booster was ho hum, they are still pretty solid mechs, the snub brawler thunderbolt and the heavy Sniper dragon are both fun. the next one though i think is taking it up a notch. Damn clanners always getting the good stuff!

Let's not forget there's going to be a mobility and quirk pass.
Considering the ECM Tax (if your chassis has ECM your other quirks are getting nerfed to compensate), I expect neither variant will get much in the way of pod quirks and in the quirk pass some stuff may end up getting moved the DWF CT / So8 and TBR RT / So8 so that they're not clearly superior to the alternatives.

[Lord Borzoi]

Take a couple of weeks off from playing and they change everything...

My last time playing I dumped the whole weapons tree from my Dire Whale and stuck all the slots into mobility to max it out and managed to garner two solo kills against a heavy and a medium in a River City battle.

Gonna have to find and read the literature on these new updates.

[Harukage]

I do not care about their overpriced reinforcement packs. I am still waiting the new STEAM pack they promised us for several months already.

[Cast Out Devil]

The Dire Wolf has a very narrow kill box. If you are in that kill box, you are beyond screwed. If you can sit outside of that kill box, you can rack up a decent match score on a single mech - that very same Dire Wolf.

Timber Wolves were once the alpha mechs of MWO....that time has long since passed. Large hit boxes and clan laser vomit taking too long to apply full damage = a good but not great heavy.

I love the Timby, but it is not an alpha mech anymore and IS assaults wipe the floor with clan assaults these days. The exception to this rule is the freebie Mad Cat MK!! PGI gave away for free.....it is a boss assault.

[Hexidecimark]

Originally posted by Cast Out Devil:

The Dire Wolf has a very narrow kill box. If you are in that kill box, you are beyond screwed. If you can sit outside of that kill box, you can rack up a decent match score on a single mech - that very same Dire Wolf.

Timber Wolves were once the alpha mechs of MWO....that time has long since passed. Large hit boxes and clan laser vomit taking too long to apply full damage = a good but not great heavy.

I love the Timby, but it is not an alpha mech anymore and IS assaults wipe the floor with clan assaults these days. The exception to this rule is the freebie Mad Cat MK!! PGI gave away for free.....it is a boss assault.

Also check out the BAS, the MAD-IIC, the veagle, and y'boi the riffleman-IIC, who have been paying real nice dividends

[Lord Borzoi]

Is cast out devil really sure it's the IS Assault mechs that are wiping the floor with Clan Assaults and not IS Assault *players* wiping the floor with Clan Assault Players?

Asking for a friend.

[Casual Sun]

Hey, I come back to this game and all my old meta stuff still works so idk. For all the stuff they change, a lot seems to stay the same. Sure, a quad uac-10 kodiak is not as meta as it was at peak, but it's still better than probably 95% of other people's assault builds that they field for variety's sake anyway.

[JC]

@casual sun, a well played Kodiak or dire are both still quite deadly. Dakka is still a viable option especially in todays 4 man+ single player drops

[Kiriesani]

I know one of the guys in charge of the new balancing changes and he's pretty not stupid so I'm sure whatever they do will be fine.

[FatherSarge]

Wait Timbies are getting an ECM? Where did you all hear that?

[NamelessOne]

Originally posted by FatherSarge:

Wait Timbies are getting an ECM? Where did you all hear that?

It's the next premium booster. You get a timber and fire wolf with C-bill bonus, and another of each without.

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Casual Sun:

Hey, I come back to this game and all my old meta stuff still works so idk. For all the stuff they change, a lot seems to stay the same. Sure, a quad uac-10 kodiak is not as meta as it was at peak, but it's still better than probably 95% of other people's assault builds that they field for variety's sake anyway.

Quad AC10+ERPPC Kodiak has currently surpassed UAC10 Kodiaks. The meta is currently about poking a hill/corner and firing a huge pinpoint alpha, and repeating that until the enemy team loses.

With UAC's & RAC's etc. long facetime weapons, you just lose standing out there while the enemy pops briefly in view to do pinpoint damage to you, and then goes back into cover to cool down for their next alpha poke.

You'll think you can just push at their position then as their builds are high heat and not suited for brawling, but you'll be pushing alone as the rest of your tem is also poking from cover. You'll just end up running into a gunline.

[Deviantdemigodz]

Yes im buying it to support PGI there finally listing to there player base and showing reasonable progress.