Is Ferro Fibrous Armor Good as Armor ?

[Blitzwing]

Is Ferro Fibrous Armor Good as Armor ?

Hi, you can select for Mech Ferro Fibrous Armor , but in Stats he still has the same Armor ?

is it an Improvement or does the mech just weight less ?

[Max_Fool]

It just weights less. Since it takes as many critical slots as Endo Steel, but saves less weight, you always take ES over it, and FF only in the rare cases where you can use both.

[Blitzwing]

But if I do not have Ferro Fibrous and Endo Steel is it OK ?

I do have one mech I want and without Ferro Fibrous I would have more place.

if its still same armor, i could do that.

[soulscour]

Almost all of my mechs have the Endo Steel upgrade. Most of my light mechs have the Ferro Fibrous. The other mechs just can't fit the ferro. Those upgrades have nothing to do with performance. Its just weight savings. A point of armor is still a point of armor on the battlefield.

[Blitzwing]

So without Ferro Fibrous its still same armor ?

Ok thanks , helped me to buy a mech, where I could only proper equip him without this armor.

[American Dove Mitten]

Ferro Fibrous Armor provdies 12% extra protection per 1 ton at the cost of 14 slots. So you save 0.12 Ton for each Ton of armor you carry .

Ammount of maximum armor does not change .

Endo-Steel frees 5% of your maximum at the cost of 14 slots . It seems that Endo-Steel is always better if you pick one or the other .

If you using Light mech that does not need DHS or XL engine you might be able to fit both .

[Blitzwing]

So it does provide more protection ?

I do always make Max Armor on my mechs, so if Ammount of maximum armor does not change is the same, I dont need that ?

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

But if I do not have Ferro Fibrous and Endo Steel is it OK ?

I don't think there is a build in existence that can't be made better by using Endo Steel.

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

So it does provide more protection ?

No. We are not there yet where IS developed Ablative and Reflective armor based on Ferro.. right now all Ferro does is provide the same protection for less tonnes.

[Blitzwing]

Ok thanks, I did want to have Mauler and it seems without that Armor I could place more weapons and ammo on him

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

Ok thanks, I did want to have Mauler and it seems without that Armor I could place more weapons and ammo on him

Well if you feel like you do not gain anything from Endosteel, then don't use it. There is no law that says you have to use it. Just in my experience you are usually more strapped for extra tonnage than you are for extra crit slots.

[American Dove Mitten]

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

So it does provide more protection ?

I do always make Max Armor on my mechs, so if Ammount of maximum armor does not change is the same, I dont need that ?

Well you spend less tons for more armor , but armor ammount does not change so if it says you have 15 armor you still have 15 armor . You just saved some weight .

[Aino]

Originally posted by Soro:

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

So it does provide more protection ?

I do always make Max Armor on my mechs, so if Ammount of maximum armor does not change is the same, I dont need that ?

Well you spend less tons for more armor , but armor ammount does not change so if it says you have 15 armor you still have 15 armor . You just saved some weight .

I'll keep it as straightforward as possible.

Ferro-Fibrous weighs less than Standard armour.
1 point of Ferro protects the same as 1 point of Standard.
Ferro requires 14 slots of your Battlemech.

As a side note.
Endo-steel requires 14 slots as well, and gives larger weight savings.

[wolf74]

Standard Armor = 32 points Per ton
I.S. Ferro Armor = 35.8 points Per ton (12% more per ton) uses 14 Critical Slot on a Mech
Clan Ferro Armor = 38.4 points Per ton (20% more per ton) uses 7 Critical Slot on a Mech

Nor sure if they are using the Noraml 4/5 rounding or Rounding up or Down o rDropping the Decimal. I never dug that deep.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Originally posted by wolf74:

Standard Armor = 32 points Per ton
I.S. Ferro Armor = 35.8 points Per ton (12% more per ton) uses 14 Critical Slot on a Mech
Clan Ferro Armor = 38.4 points Per ton (20% more per ton) uses 7 Critical Slot on a Mech

Nor sure if they are using the Noraml 4/5 rounding or Rounding up or Down o rDropping the Decimal. I never dug that deep.

To put that another way, a Centurion can save about 1 ton by using Ferrofibrous armor, while an Atlas can save about 2.5 tons. Considering that they could save 2.5 tons and 5 tons respectively by using EndoSteel, always use EndoSteel. The only time should use Ferrofibrous on an Inner Sphere or IIc mech is when you have enough space to use both Endo AND Ferro.

[Xetelian]

Rule of thumb:
Put Endo steel on every mech unless you can actually use all the slots without it which is rare.
Use Ferrofib if a mech that already has endo steel has 14+ slots available

Never choose to add FerroFib over Endosteel or you are gimping yourself

The upgrades use slots to give you extra weight for more Heatsinks and weapons/ammo
Endo steel is the better weight saver
Most light mechs can fit both a few mediums too but most heavies and assaults cannot fit both