The Best heavy Clan Mech ?

[Blitzwing]

The Best heavy Clan Mech ?

Hi , I want a new heavy mech , but I am not sure which one, I have so far the Mad-Cat.

Mad Dog I do see a lot of time ingame 60 tons
http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Mad_Dog

Ebon Jaguar seems to have more weapons ? 65 tons
http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Ebon_Jaguar

Hellbringer 65 tons
http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Hellbringer

Summoner 70 tons
http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Summoner

Well by Omni Mechs is the advantage ,you can later on adjust them.

In Assault/Medium/Light its easy to see the difference. But how is it by this 4 ?

What is of this Heavy better for Laser, Baliscitcs or Rockets ?

[FallenDevil86]

Цитата допису Blitzwing:

Ok on Right Arm Summoner cant have balisitcs. Only on torso LOL.

So I would try out Hellbringer
Is it Ok that he does not have no Ferro Fibrous Armor/Endo-Steel ?

It doesn't matter,you can go ninja with HBR,torso twist like crazy and you'll be fine :D

[Ishan451]

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

Meh...fot me it's still underpowered. The TBR can do so much better.The prices of the summoner are around 13-14 mills with no endo steel,it's almost the same prices of TBR.

As i said.. in the context of this game the summoner has a hard stand. If we were restricted by Lore then only Clan Wolf would have access to the Timberwolf. Other Clans would only have access to the Timberwolf in limited numbers, because as the name suggests it is a Clan Wolf mech. (And yes, i am aware that Pryde piloted a heavily modified version of the Timber Wolf). The Summoner on the other hand would be a Clan Jade Falcon Mech.

Stormcrow and Hellbringer are Clan Hell's Horse inventions and were distributed by them, which means Clan Ghost Bear wouldn't have any, considering Hell's Horse were their sworn enemies.

What i am trying to say is... not every Clan had access to all Clan Mechs. Just like the Inner Sphere didn't have access to all IS mechs. Which is why things like Catapult and Archer exist side by side. Once the Archer releases we will, in all likelihood have seen our last Catapult.

The ARC-2S (Archer 2S) has at least 4 missile hardpoints in its Sides, not the arms like the Catapult.

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

It can be good if pgi gives the SMN a little bit of quirks,maybe some cooldown/range/heat reduction quirks.

Doesn't it have quirks?

According to http://snafets.de/mwo/quirks.htm

The 2nd one i proposed has the following quirks:

ER-Laser Cooldown 5%
Laser Cooldown 5%
Clan AMS Range 15%
Clan NARC Range +50m
Clan NARC Duration +10s
Clan AMS Fire Rate 10%
Clan MG Range 5%
Clan MG Fire Rate 2.5%
Acceleration 60%
Deceleration 60%
Turn Rate 35%
Speed Modifie r5%
Torso Yaw Speed 40%

Admittedly i didn't check that, but those Narc Quirks from the Left SMN-B bonus are quite nice for faction warfare. You could put a Narc in there. Those movement quirks are nice on it.

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

TBR can use 4 cMedpulse with 2 cUac5 or 2cLPL with 5cMedLas or 4 LRM10/4 SRM6,with 5 cMedLas/5cSPL.

It is also a lot heavier and certainly will be fired uppon at sight, and doesn't seem to have any worthwhile quirks.

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

TBR is always a better choice than SMN.

And nobody disagreed with that. I even specifically said that in my post. What i disagreed with, is it being an underpowered mech.

[FallenDevil86]

Цитата допису Ishan451:

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

Meh...fot me it's still underpowered. The TBR can do so much better.The prices of the summoner are around 13-14 mills with no endo steel,it's almost the same prices of TBR.

As i said.. in the context of this game the summoner has a hard stand. If we were restricted by Lore then only Clan Wolf would have access to the Timberwolf. Other Clans would only have access to the Timberwolf in limited numbers, because as the name suggests it is a Clan Wolf mech. (And yes, i am aware that Pryde piloted a heavily modified version of the Timber Wolf). The Summoner on the other hand would be a Clan Jade Falcon Mech.

Stormcrow and Hellbringer are Clan Hell's Horse inventions and were distributed by them, which means Clan Ghost Bear wouldn't have any, considering Hell's Horse were their sworn enemies.

What i am trying to say is... not every Clan had access to all Clan Mechs. Just like the Inner Sphere didn't have access to all IS mechs. Which is why things like Catapult and Archer exist side by side. Once the Archer releases we will, in all likelihood have seen our last Catapult.

The ARC-2S (Archer 2S) has at least 4 missile hardpoints in its Sides, not the arms like the Catapult.

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

It can be good if pgi gives the SMN a little bit of quirks,maybe some cooldown/range/heat reduction quirks.

Doesn't it have quirks?

According to http://snafets.de/mwo/quirks.htm

The 2nd one i proposed has the following quirks:

ER-Laser Cooldown 5%
Laser Cooldown 5%
Clan AMS Range 15%
Clan NARC Range +50m
Clan NARC Duration +10s
Clan AMS Fire Rate 10%
Clan MG Range 5%
Clan MG Fire Rate 2.5%
Acceleration 60%
Deceleration 60%
Turn Rate 35%
Speed Modifie r5%
Torso Yaw Speed 40%

Admittedly i didn't check that, but those Narc Quirks from the Left SMN-B bonus are quite nice for faction warfare. You could put a Narc in there. Those movement quirks are nice on it.

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

TBR can use 4 cMedpulse with 2 cUac5 or 2cLPL with 5cMedLas or 4 LRM10/4 SRM6,with 5 cMedLas/5cSPL.

It is also a lot heavier and certainly will be fired uppon at sight, and doesn't seem to have any worthwhile quirks.

Цитата допису FallenDevil86:

TBR is always a better choice than SMN.

And nobody disagreed with that. I even specifically said that in my post. What i disagreed with, is it being an underpowered mech.

lol luckily MWO is not having that restriction. If MWO doing that...i bet people will choose the clan/house with good mechs. Hmmm...archer,it's gonna be good. I bet PGI will buff the LRM a bit more,to promote the Archers.

Sorry my bad...it's been a while since i last saw the smn,it have some quirks now. It have some nice quirks there.

AFAIK know,clan mech with structural and weapon quirks are having some slight "weakness" like bad hitboxes or bad hardpoint (compared to others),why TBR doesn't have quirks even TBR is having minus quirks,we should know it better,good hitboxes,all round omnipods,better armor,having all the main upgrades,endo/ferro/DHS.

[Jackrabbit_V6/ RSProduxx]

Timber Wolf, Mad Dog, Hellbringer. Ebon is okay too,but just not enough to be in my top 3 :)

[Blitzwing]

OK I did compre something, on full armor free weight/tons for Equipment.
Hellbringer is 24,3
Summoner is 20,6
Ebon Jaguar is 28,5
Mad Dog is 26,5
Timber Wolf is 27,4

Well Timber Wolf seems to be the best by armor and weapons.

Summoner and Hellbringer doreally look interesting, but they seem to be not so powerfull.
I mean its if they can do hide and fire from corners this could be good.
Its just they are extreme expensive.

The trial Ebon Jaguar is just pretty easy to kill, i mean if the enemy gets you , he does die pretty fast. Timber Wolf can run away.

So I am not sure what of this 2 mechs Summoner and Hellbringer to try out.
I could wait for Orion IIC, but it will take time and you cant "change by him omnipods"

[Blitzwing]

Цитата допису Jackrabbit_V6:

Timber Wolf, Mad Dog, Hellbringer. Ebon is okay too,but just not enough to be in my top 3 :)

hey man I think to get Hellbringer, is that Mech OK ?

[Jackrabbit_V6/ RSProduxx]

yes, i love the hellbringer

[Speedkermit]

I run Hellbringers in CW and love them, great for quick-play matches too. ECM is really useful.

[PapiDeHusky]

;O helly has ecm dang already out of slots full of dogs breed <
any mech that has ecm has muh love

[r3bs]

Hellbringer, the ecm variant. Can carry 3-4 large lasers, so you've got a heavy which protects himself and teammates and pokes the enemy from long range for pretty decent damage. Of course you can just throw a ton of medium-small lasers if you want.

As for the Summoners, i've only heard bad things about them so far. Don't have one myself.

[PapiDeHusky]

i dont have summoner
feels like a mech that sits back just snipe with ppc or laser and bring lrm support with narc capability

[Blitzwing]

OK my Next Heavy is Hellbringer.

[Jackrabbit_V6/ RSProduxx]

Цитата допису r3bs:

Hellbringer, the ecm variant. Can carry 3-4 large lasers, so you've got a heavy which protects himself and teammates and pokes the enemy from long range for pretty decent damage. Of course you can just throw a ton of medium-small lasers if you want.

i run mine with just 2 LPL and 2 srm6 +TC Mk II, all torso mounted... works pretty good in close to medium range engagements, but i gotta add that i mainly use it in group actions

[Blitzwing]

What role is actually better by Heavy Mech ? What does the team need more ?
Hellbringer.+ AMS or A Mech with more fire power ?

[PapiDeHusky]

hellbringer + ams + ecm support type that has capability for high fire power
i would say i dont own hellbringer i want to but no storage

look it this way a its similar to an atlas just heavy version
and less tanky