Is Atlas AS7-BH "Boar's Head" a good Mech ?

[Blitzwing]

Hi, we have now this X-mas and so on, so this Mech is pretty cheap right now.

So far I am a huge fan of MechWarriour and its the only Mech Class I am able to play properly.

http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Atlas_AS7-BH

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=103&l=stock

What do you think ? Is that a good Mech to play ?

[Ishan451]

Honestly, good stock mechs are rather the exception. And i would much rather take the AS7-D-DC. The only IS assault with ECM. Tremendous benefit to you and your team if LRM boats won't be able to target you.

Even Stock i'd much rather use that one than the Boars Head. But if i were to get an Atlas (after i played all variants to get it mastered), I'd probably stick with the D-DC, kick the AC20 out, put an AC10 in. Put Large Lasers into its arms, Endosteel. The LRM out for 3 SRM6 and ECM. Or something along those lines.

Take my opinion with a grain of salt.. i hate piloting anything heavier than Mediums :)

[PermanentRando]

The only thing that the Boar's Head does special compared to other Atlas variants is go fast. It has the highest max engine size of all of the variants, but offers little else. The only other reason you would consider taking it is because of the CBill boost. As far as hero mechs go, it's just okay... many other hero variants offer something special or different, like the Misery is the only Stalker variant with ballistics for example. Boar's Head just has "go a bit faster than normal".

[Scanz]

best atlas in a game

[Dakota]

I usually just run the Boar's Head with 6 medium pulse lasers and an AC20 with a standard engine and loads of heat sinks. I usually prefer the other Atlases for their heavy SRM punch though. Boar's Head isn't bad though, just a bit different.

[Blitzwing]

Well so I change the XL Engine , so he can survive more ?

[Dakota]

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

Well so I change the XL Engine , so he can survive more ?

Yeah, most people see an Atlas and will try and rip out one of the side torsos, normally this means they lose a good chunk of firepower but still need a lot more firepower to bring them down and are still a threat. I remember taking out an enemy battlemaster and shadow hawk with only my AC20 left while starting with red CT armor, an Atlas is scary.

With an XL in the Atlas you can go just a little bit faster (but still pretty slow) but die the moment you lose a side torso. Usually its not really worth it. In a mech like the Banshee or Battlemaster were you get up to 70+ and 80+ kph in an assault mech its not that bad though.

[AnimeFreak40K]

I've heard that the Boar's Head is great, I've heard that it's crap with the only redeeming feature being that you get a "cheap" XL400 engine (which is useful in other mechs).

Personally, I feel that the Atlas D-DC and Atlas S are stronger variants.
The Atlas D-DC has 1 Energy hardpoint in each arm (instead of 3), but it has 2 Ballistic and 3 Missile slots in the side torsos (instead of 1 of each). The key selling-point though is that the D-DC is the only Assault mech with ECM
The Atlas S has 1 Energy hardpoint in each arm, but it has 4 Missile slots (more than any other variant) and 2 Energy hardpoints in the center torso.

Both of these mechs can have very strong builds that can suit many different play-styles.

[Meat Popsicle]

Its a solid "meah."

Its a good enough atlas, Its fast for a 100 tonner, has a LOT of laser hard points for eithe MPL or SPL smashing power which gives it quite a punch.

But the rest of the mech is kind of outshined by other variants.

Out of all the atlas' it has the most offensive punch with the massive number of laser hardpoints. But its essentially a "fast / offensive" version of a mech that is traditionally slow and durable.

It doesn't make it bad, it makes it different, and you can build many standard Atlas builds on it for a cbill boosted version of others.

But its a "unique" version of the mech. If you play it like any other atlas, Its going to be a solid "meah." But if you cater it to its more offensive mindset, its something that is "unique" and definatly will catch people off guard if they aren't prepared for it in match, but overal, many feel that other mechs like the King Crab and Dire wolves do the "offensive mindset" better then the Atlas line.

[TyphonCh]

Yes, right behind the Misery as best Hero I ever spent money on. The stock load out minus the engine is good as it is.
Rip out that XL 400 because XL Atlas' are almost as bad as LRM Atlas'... You should be able to run pretty much the same stock load out with a standard 350.
A popular load out as well is 3 large pulse, and an AC20. All on one side, sword and board.

[Stelar Seven]

I have a terrible time in my Atlases. They are broad as a barn door and about as maneuverable. If you want to go IS assault I suggest a dakka crab.

[Xetelian]

Do NOT use an XL engine in something this wide, your shoulders are far to big to use and when you have only 1 ballistic point you need to carry an AC20 or Gauss though its more dangerous to carry Gauss in the shoulder as it might explode.

This is how I run mine:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=103&l=bf1b76ae3c332925c760e8f1233ba810b9ab3f34

This is a more advanced Sword and Board style meta build.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=103&l=9f5d048c6fbb148b82fb91cc326b674bd56441d3

If either of those capture your interest then have at it. Ultimately it depends on how good you are at assault piloting.

If you are buying your first Hero mech then get a Misery over a Boar's Head.

[Blitzwing]

Originally posted by Xetelian:

Do NOT use an XL engine in something this wide, your shoulders are far to big to use and when you have only 1 ballistic point you need to carry an AC20 or Gauss though its more dangerous to carry Gauss in the shoulder as it might explode.

This is how I run mine:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=103&l=bf1b76ae3c332925c760e8f1233ba810b9ab3f34

This is a more advanced Sword and Board style meta build.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=103&l=9f5d048c6fbb148b82fb91cc326b674bd56441d3

If either of those capture your interest then have at it. Ultimately it depends on how good you are at assault piloting.

If you are buying your first Hero mech then get a Misery over a Boar's Head.

+1 Yes I will change him to this.

Anyway I mean I can put other Engine and Weapons on it, so it schould be so strong as the Other Atlas Mechs ?

Well I dont like the Crab or Daishi/Dire Wolf , you are pretty slow and the weapons are bad to fire. Mad-Cat is OK, but all other "Chicken or Ostrich" Mechs don't move and fire properly.

As Atlas you can take some Punch and still be maneuverable.
The Trial Atlas is in my opinion excellent in take down other Big Mechs.

the 30% C-Bills is a thing^^, but still I don want a proper Mech.

So far I do have
Warhawk = Cant play him properly = I do try to refund him.
Mad-Cat, man what a mech, still all years later the best Mech ingame.
Arctic Cheetah , well good and funny.

By this Atlas AS7-BH "Boar's Head"
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=103&l=stock
The only thing because I am unsure is the Central torso, by the Trail Atlas I do loose Parts all the time. So most its fight with the weapons on Central torso in late game.


This 2 Atlas seem to be a better Choice if you want an Atlas.

http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Atlas_AS7-D
http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Atlas_AS7-S


Atlas AS7-D looks like a better Mech for me. Is by Inner Sphere a way to Mix up the Mech ?
The 2 Central lasers are pretty essential in my Opinion for that Mech class.

[Maj_Cyric]

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

Hi, we have now this X-mas and so on, so this Mech is pretty cheap right now.

So far I am a huge fan of MechWarriour and its the only Mech Class I am able to play properly.

http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Atlas_AS7-BH

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=103&l=stock

What do you think ? Is that a good Mech to play ?

An Atlas with an XL? That is just fail...

If run an Atlas, I run a Mastered D-DC... with a 350 STD engine.. does over 60kph...
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=17&l=a4e2d04b8abb8da806b079ad9bfbf1d935d42e66

But if I play an Assault mech i prefer one of my Mastered Stalkers, Mostly my Misery that has a 300 STD Eng (Over 60kph) 3 L-Pulse, 2 Med Pulse, 1 SRM6 with 20 double HS..

[Maj_Cyric]

Originally posted by Blitzwing:

Well I dont like the Crab or Daishi/Dire Wolf , you are pretty slow and the weapons are bad to fire. Mad-Cat is OK, but all other "Chicken or Ostrich" Mechs don't move and fire properly.

I love my TBR-C with 2 L-Pulse and 3 ER-Med Lasers with 25 HS (47 damage alpha)... can do 4 Alphas (4th overheats) Great for out flanking running at 87kph

[Heart of Storm]

Get the Boars Head if you enjoy playing Atlases - personally I favour the D-DC and the S variant as I love the pure shortrange murdererousness of an AC20/3x or 4x SRM6 combo.

Just don't run the XL in an Atlas, or LRMs, friends don't let friends mount LRMs in Atlases.