why does mwo crash so much?

[nice_guy]

why does mwo crash so much.
Why does PGi not fix it?

[Dracul]

Cause there is like, three guys moving values around now and then to make it seem like they are adjusting weapon balance but have no real ability to effect major changes like bugs, exploits and such. Bulk of PGI are working on MW5 clans stuff right about now I suspect.

[theraxc]

full screen mode is know to cause crashes, use full windowed instead.

[SharkPlush]

I have played it for like a decade alt-tabbing the entire time from Core2Duo to Nvidia 4xxx series it only crashes very occasionally.

[nice_guy]

Originally posted by theraxc:

full screen mode is know to cause crashes, use full windowed instead.

I will give it a try, thanks

[Potat al Gaib]

Originally posted by theraxc:

full screen mode is know to cause crashes, use full windowed instead.

Confirming that i am doing this for the past 5 years and it helped a lot,
Also due to how frequent the game gets new content, it is prone to new bugs and crashes

[talemore]

I dpn't get people who throw away their fully working graphic cards to get a worse.

And another question is, are you one of those who installed windows 11 ?

windows 11 changed a lot. It doesn't support old drivers.

Windows is no longer working to play games since they removed the old drivers who were used to play older games.

[Zyrrashijn]

MWO runs perfectly fine on my system including Win11

[Xetelian]

Since 2012 I've played on 5 machines, each with different setups and the amount of crashes has been seldom to the point that there hasn't been any in this year or last year or the year before.

But it does happen, to a lot of people, so I know when I see these complaints that certain setups/drivers whatever have a horrible time with this game.

I don't know what the common thread is, but I don't think that this tiny team can chase down these bugs.

Sorry man.

[nice_guy]

Originally posted by theraxc:

full screen mode is know to cause crashes, use full windowed instead.

works without crashes. thank you sir

[Tarl Cabot]

Originally posted by nice_guy:

Originally posted by theraxc:

full screen mode is know to cause crashes, use full windowed instead.

works without crashes. thank you sir

When using Full Screen, the system has to redraw everything when tabbing out then components. Some of the issue is with the devs but some it is with the Windows and components/stability. For the players themselves, it is easier to go Window/Full Window than try to troubleshoot, stress test, run different drivers to reduce the crashing in Full Screen.

[Alrik]

Originally posted by nice_guy:

why does mwo crash so much.
Why does PGi not fix it?

MWO crashed because...
Well, you didn't tell anything about your hardware or at wich point the games crashes, so what should PGI do, look into a crystall ball to find out the cause and cast a spell?

There are some very common causes for crashes in almost every online game:
If the game crashes if the players joins a server one of the most common causes is a mismatch between the games server version and the version the players PC has.
Could be a bad patch, and most devs do a hotfix ASAP against it.
Could also be data corruption on the players PC, and devs can't do anything about that.
Data corruption can happen due a SSD slowly dying, so check your windows logs.

The game can also crash if the GPU driver has a bug, either because a bad patch or data corruption. Stuff like that mostly happens after launching the game but before connection to a match.

The game may also crash if i can't connect to the account server, but usually with a connections lost / can connect failure.

Games may crash after some time playing due heat or memory issues (or both) usually with a error message from the GPU driver.
Same can happen with the CPU.

MWO has a log running for crashes, the cause of the crash is usually at the end:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/342200/discussions/3/494632506570112255/

https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/78357-using-the-log-file-to-find-bug-issues/

[Potat al Gaib]

Originally posted by nice_guy:

Originally posted by theraxc:

full screen mode is know to cause crashes, use full windowed instead.

works without crashes. thank you sir

also take note that nvidia blames intel's lack of unoptimization for gen 13 and gen 14 CPUs and actually calls them out in their own driver's known issues lol

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/540532/geforce-grd-55212-feedback-thread-released-4424/

If your system is using an Intel 13th/14th Gen unlocked desktop CPU and is experiencing stability issues/out of video memory error messages/crash to desktop while the game is compiling shaders, please consult the following sites for troubleshooting assistance:



https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Regarding-Reports-of-13th-14th-Gen-Unlocked-Desktop-Users/td-p/1575863?profile.language=en


https://www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm

[SharkPlush]

It should be noted that hitting alt-tab is generally risky with lots of video games. Source: I am a legendary level loser.

[Potat al Gaib]

Yeah so try window mode, and if you have intel 13th or 14th gen, set the SVD to limit itself to safe settings, and remove any multicore equivalent enhancements or just reset everything to default if you have no idea what you are doing, just follow the rad game tools instructions

me, as an ASUS ROG lover, on a Z790 i set the MCE to remove all limits but thermal throttle to 90, and set the SVD to Intel FAIL!..safes