If im a average player what mech should I use to rank up/ why do I suck at ranking up?

[Winblows]

maybe im not a average player since im always rank 5, but iv been playing light mechs and the one I do the best in im bored of, its like a laser sniper kit fox do like 300-500 damage often. I just want to rank up and iv been using light mech because i felt by doing so i wouldnt be as much of a drag on the team if i do bad

I just dont get why im not ranking up when I seem to be doing ok-good

[RASTIL]

Why woudl you even want to rank up? 500 dmg shoudl usually be enough to get a green arrow when match ends.
I wish i coudl quickly derank without it being a super boring process to escape comp players groupdropping lmao

[Winblows]

Publicado originalmente por RASTIL:

Why woudl you even want to rank up? 500 dmg shoudl usually be enough to get a green arrow when match ends.
I wish i coudl quickly derank without it being a super boring process to escape comp players groupdropping lmao

I know the upper ranks have their problems but im tired of watching my team spread out and separating and taking the worst positions, this game is heavily team based

[RASTIL]

It ain't much better in tier 1 it's just nascar most of the time

[Deviantdemigodz]

Publicado originalmente por RASTIL:

It ain't much better in tier 1 it's just nascar most of the time

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Its called NASCAR Jump-sniping with never miss players and unlimited shots with no refresh time on weapons YAY welcome to Tier1-2. Fun Stuff=Not. Best tier is 5 and 4.

[The 3 Whites]

Publicado originalmente por DR. Euthanasia:

maybe im not a average player since im always rank 5, but iv been playing light mechs and the one I do the best in im bored of, its like a laser sniper kit fox do like 300-500 damage often. I just want to rank up and iv been using light mech because i felt by doing so i wouldnt be as much of a drag on the team if i do bad

I just dont get why im not ranking up when I seem to be doing ok-good

from tier 5 to tier 4 play medium to assault mech (command console) with active probe sensors + targeting computer + lrms

just let rockets rain the whole game + lock at map to make sure you dont stand alone

[The Fifth Horseman]

Targeting computers cannot be combined with Command Console, and neither of those benefits LRMs (no, "target data speed" is not missile lock time, it's the paperdoll update time).

Publicado originalmente por DR. Euthanasia:

maybe im not a average player since im always rank 5, but iv been playing light mechs and the one I do the best in im bored of, its like a laser sniper kit fox do like 300-500 damage often. I just want to rank up and iv been using light mech because i felt by doing so i wouldnt be as much of a drag on the team if i do bad

I just dont get why im not ranking up when I seem to be doing ok-good

Whether you rank up is not decided by your own performance in a vacuum, but by how it relates to that of your teammates and opponents. The most reliable way to rank up is to just crank out ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of damage (which yes, LRMs work decently for provided you don't stand still and don't repeatedly send your salvos into hillsides ), and light mechs tend to have lower potential for that than heavier classes.

[Alrik]

Publicado originalmente por DR. Euthanasia:

I know the upper ranks have their problems but im tired of watching my team spread out and separating and taking the worst positions, this game is heavily team based

No, quickplay is not team based.
12 random players that are mixed together for one match are not a team.
All that spread out or NASCAR and bad positioning happens because the random match creation.
Players in higher tiers are not better team players - they still don't care about other players in green - they have just more experience in how the map is usually played.

If you want a team in MWO you should drop in a group and use a own VOIP.
In a group you get real team based gameplay with players communicating and working together.
You can even coordinate the loadout of all mechs before entering matchmaking so that at least one mech has ECM and all mechs are of more or less equal speed and compatible weapons.

[Winblows]

Publicado originalmente por Alrik:

Publicado originalmente por DR. Euthanasia:

I know the upper ranks have their problems but im tired of watching my team spread out and separating and taking the worst positions, this game is heavily team based

No, quickplay is not team based.
12 random players that are mixed together for one match are not a team.
All that spread out or NASCAR and bad positioning happens because the random match creation.
Players in higher tiers are not better team players - they still don't care about other players in green - they have just more experience in how the map is usually played.

If you want a team in MWO you should drop in a group and use a own VOIP.
In a group you get real team based gameplay with players communicating and working together.
You can even coordinate the loadout of all mechs before entering matchmaking so that at least one mech has ECM and all mechs are of more or less equal speed and compatible weapons.

I disagree regardless of how people play, the game does not allow individuals as much solo power, in cod a single man can carry a team and get 90% of the kills, in mwo that is much harder to do

mwo seems to revolve around coordinated group efforts, making firing lines, pushing together, agreeing where to go at the start of the match ect. sure ideally it would be with a team you actually communicate with, but people could just assume the position silently which is what I expected in higher ranks or for people with a mic to actually try and coordinate the team more often

id say its a team based game no one plays right

[salamatmahal]

I feel like the clan laser-vomit hellbringer with ECM, 2xCHLL, and 4xCERML is perhaps one of the easiest mechs to play and get a reasonably good match score in.

[Bassault]

try the Katana Kat with 4 lppc, the firestarter also has a lot of great builds, like this one https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=442257c0_FS9-A

Piranha with heavy meds and lmgs are great too, mid-range dps. https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=6ade7d91_PIR-A

[Tman]

If you are indeed an average player you will rank to the place you are best suited. Being higher tier means nothing except having to work harder in a game to have fun. GL HF

[Alrik]

Publicado originalmente por DR. Euthanasia:

I disagree regardless of how people play, the game does not allow individuals as much solo power, in cod a single man can carry a team and get 90% of the kills, in mwo that is much harder to do

To get a lot of kills in MWO players just need to stay alive.
The trick is to not care about "your team" or the victory but instead doing as much damage and getting kills.

Use the other players in your teams as meatshields.
Don't go back to help an other player that get left behind in the NASCAR and is swarmed by faster mechs.

mwo seems to revolve around coordinated group efforts, making firing lines, pushing together, agreeing where to go at the start of the match ect. sure ideally it would be with a team you actually communicate with, but people could just assume the position silently which is what I expected in higher ranks or for people with a mic to actually try and coordinate the team more often

MWOs quickplay is designed to prevent coordinated group efforts.

The teams are made up for one match and than dissolved.
-> that prevents the natural team building that happen in other games there players stay together for multiple matches

The pre-match lobby time is to short to agree on a leader or on a common tactic.
-> no coordination

The VOIP is one big channel for 12 players, so any info you share to one player may distract 10 other players.
-> no communication

id say its a team based game no one plays right

You play Quickplay right by don't giving a dam about the team.
Stay alive and don't go back to help.
That's the way to score kills and damage and rise in the player tier.

[xXdarkNERD420Xx]

Publicado originalmente por salamatmahal:

I feel like the clan laser-vomit hellbringer with ECM, 2xCHLL, and 4xCERML is perhaps one of the easiest mechs to play and get a reasonably good match score in.

best comment so far

[JC]

Publicado originalmente por DR. Euthanasia:

Publicado originalmente por RASTIL:

Why woudl you even want to rank up? 500 dmg shoudl usually be enough to get a green arrow when match ends.
I wish i coudl quickly derank without it being a super boring process to escape comp players groupdropping lmao

I know the upper ranks have their problems but im tired of watching my team spread out and separating and taking the worst positions, this game is heavily team based

You either deal with that or highly skilled 4 mans. I'm in the middle and i prefer the scatter I don't play anywhere near enough these days to deal with top players, and people walk a lot more smack and do a lot more complaining about "bad" players as well which is another turn of with ranking up. The lower ranks seam to be a lot more casual in play and i find i get more competitive games more often.

as far as mech to play, it really is up to you. Which every you enjoy the most and do well in is what i would pick. That said, 2 mechs for me for C-bills are the Timber BH and Direwolf C (the one with ECM) they are the two c-bill versions of mechs in the Warden pack) the timber is a 2 large pulse, 4/5 MPL monster and the dire can run 7UAC2's or 2UAC10+3UAC5+ 12 ERSL (i think it's twelve anyway) I just love the mech though. It's a bit slow but can really dish some damage.

[Star Paladin]

I have almost 400 hours; watched multiple videos on strategies and builds; communicate and cooperate in every battle; and I was in tier 4 for maybe a couple weeks. Now, no matter what I do, I see a red down arrow after most our battles.

The game should make is so players like us can at LEAST get to tier 3 with enough work, time and effort. Even when I play what I think is the best possible I could do in a battle, I get an = in the end. :/