Beagle Active probe isnt countering ECM

[earthsdestination]

I have an active probe so i wont lose target locks when a light with an ecm gets close to me but its not functioning at all. Its not "countering" the ECM at all

[CycKath]

Assuming its not range issue, Beagle and even worse Light Active Probe have pretty short range, Beagle only counters one ECM so if there are multiple ECM mechs you can still be out of luck.

[earthsdestination]

Its just been one and its been happening for awhile it seems. the issue is i cant target anything when an ecm mech gets close whether i have an active probe or not

[theraxc]

Could it be that they are using stealth armour? Beagle/ Active Probe does not counter active stealth armour, you need a tag to counter stealth armour.

[earthsdestination]

the issue is i cant target other mechs when they get into range of me, its throws off my targeting so i cant target anyone, the light use this tactic to throw off the lrm boats. I shouldnt be losing targeting when they are close because i have an active probe

[cyäegha]

out of curiosity, are you actively pressing 'R' to target enemies, or are you relying on automatic targetting / friendly locks?

it reads like you're trying to use lock-on weapons at close range; if you're running LRMs, then ECM isn't the problem, enemies underrunning your minimum range is

if you're running streaks then it's likely either you or your target is within ECM cover, and bap/cap/clap only counters one ECM module within it's active radius, so it won't do anything to help you crossmap a dorito with an 'eye' next to it

[Captain Worthy]

If I remember this right, Beagle just counters the stealth effect of ECM, not the scrambling effect of the ECM bubble. So it works when you are within range of the Beagle but outside the range of the scramble bubble.

[tutzdes]

BAP doesn't work in these cases:
1) Enemy uses Stealth Armor
2) Enemy has 2+ ECM
3) Enemy has Radar Jammer active
4) You are using ECM in Disrupt Mode

[Zyrrashijn]

Originally posted by theraxc:

Could it be that they are using stealth armour? Beagle/ Active Probe does not counter active stealth armour, you need a tag to counter stealth armour.

TAG doesn't counter ECM or stealth it just makes the protected mech targetable. If the ECM/stealth mech is close (<120m) TAG doesn't work at all.

Originally posted by Turha Peruna:

If I remember this right, Beagle just counters the stealth effect of ECM, not the scrambling effect of the ECM bubble. So it works when you are within range of the Beagle but outside the range of the scramble bubble.

wrong. An active probe completely disables the nearest, not stealth-armour, ECM.

[earthsdestination]

radar jammer? as in ecm in disrupt mode?

[tutzdes]

Originally posted by earthsdestination:

radar jammer?

Jamming Tower is a structure in Incursion game mode. When powered it affects all the enemies on its side of the map.

[Captain Worthy]

Ah, I remembered it the other way round, of course. Range of ECM is greater than that of BAP, so you have to get closer to the enemy in order to counter their ECM.

So there is a zone where you will get your sensors disrupted by ECM even when you have a BAP.

If the enemy still can't be locked when it is within BAP range then it's most likely using stealth armor.

[Zyrrashijn]

No, counter range is 360m on active probes, disrupt range of ECM is 120m.

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Zyrrashijn:

No, counter range is 360m on active probes, disrupt range of ECM is 120m.

You are correct, I have been reading some outdated information and false ideas about ECM in general. In a 1v1 situation, BAP counters regular ECM when you get into BAP range.