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uni790 May 29, 2018 @ 8:51am
Quickplay with a friend
These queues take far longer then a normal queue, I figure it's because the matchmaker is looking for a similar sized premade for the other team?

There any way to speed up the matchmaking? Or do we just have to wait it out?

Also, why does it split us up into other groups? We queued together to work together, and being in different squads makes that a fair bit harder...

The wait times are definately not a game breaker (for me at least) but being split up might be.
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JC May 29, 2018 @ 9:28am 
If you wanna play with a bud, Solaris is your best bet, but that is hard mode. Your best bet is to find a like minded group and have you and your friend join up with 10 others :)


You really want UNIT play if your going to play with your friend..


as for split into different squads are you talking lances? if so, it means nothing, just get together in the match, Or as in chat before hand if you can swap lances with the command thing, that way you can earn a bit extra C-bills for being near your lancemate, but its really not much money at all.

really all you miss is Lance chat, thats it./
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Ishan451 May 29, 2018 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by uni790:
There any way to speed up the matchmaking? Or do we just have to wait it out?

Group Que ques you against and with other groups. Its quite underutilized as its recommended to use LFG feature and find a full group, otherwise you need to wait until groups of sufficient configuration will que up.

Originally posted by uni790:
Also, why does it split us up into other groups? We queued together to work together, and being in different squads makes that a fair bit harder...

It doesn't split you into other groups, it splits you into lances according to the usual tonnage split. Meaning 1-3 lights +1 medium in Alpha Lance, 2 mediums + 2heavies in Bravo and 3 assaults + 1 heavy in Charlie. This is how the matchmaker tries to place everyone. If there are not enough types of mechs (after a certain time) it loosens this restriction. But if you drop in a light mech and your friend in an assault, its unlikely you will ever be placed in the same group. Ever.

Originally posted by uni790:
The wait times are definately not a game breaker (for me at least) but being split up might be.

You should still be in the same group... just walk over to your friend.
Chameleon_Silk May 29, 2018 @ 10:55am 
take company command, adjust lance so that you are in same lance.

then you will get bonuses for staying in formation, just make sure you don't split up other friends... if you do oh well, once you relinquish command they can adjust themselves.
Ishan451 May 29, 2018 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by Chameleon_Silk:
then you will get bonuses for staying in formation

Only if the other 2 of your lance died or are nearby as well. Just 2 of 4 working together is not enough to trigger it as long as all 4 are alive.

Lance in formation bonuses are not only hard to get, unless you have a dedicated team of 4, but also not really worthwhile. You can just as well pair a light + heavy/assault or a medium + assault and get proximity boni. More reliable and works all match with 2 mechs.
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Chameleon_Silk May 29, 2018 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by Chameleon_Silk:
then you will get bonuses for staying in formation

Only if the other 2 of your lance died or are nearby as well. Just 2 of 4 working together is not enough to trigger it as long as all 4 are alive.

Lance in formation bonuses are not only hard to get, unless you have a dedicated team of 4, but also not really worthwhile. You can just as well pair a light + heavy/assault or a medium + assault and get proximity boni. More reliable and works all match with 2 mechs.

better to have a chance of bonus... think about it if you are leaving the other lance to meet up your friend in the other lance you are destroying bonuses for more then just you and your friend.

adjust the lance takes two seconds, not that it really matters but a bonus is a bonus.
Last edited by Chameleon_Silk; May 29, 2018 @ 11:29am
Ishan451 May 29, 2018 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Chameleon_Silk:
better to have a chance of bonus... think about it if you are leaving the other lance to meet up your friend in the other lance you are destroying bonuses for more then just you and your friend.

Yeah, i felt like you did a long time as well,... but honestly i stopped. As light and medium pilot i am frequently in alpha lance and we often would go Wolfpacking. Its nice when it works, but in my experience you are more likely to throw the match for the team, than for it to work out.

In my experience you are better of just deathballing around your Assault than to concern yourself with sticking to your lance. Over all it will ensure more wins for the team than sticking to your lance will. Nothing worse than having your lance caught off, and the team loosing 4 mechs just because you followed the wrong guy down the wrong path.

Lance in formation happens naturally if all coalesce around the heavies... and if someone in the lance goes off script.. there is a 50:50 chance of it not working.. and pulling in all other teammates that followed them.

It comes down to your preference, but as far as i am concerned... i stick to my big guys, defend their flanks and keep their backs safe from the enemy... as well as try to flank the enemy on my own. Sticking to my lance. Its just not worth it.
Last edited by Ishan451; May 29, 2018 @ 12:19pm
Chameleon_Silk May 29, 2018 @ 5:48pm 
well if you are going to jump lance and go into friends lance you might as well change your lance to be the same lance.
uni790 May 29, 2018 @ 7:02pm 
We tried Solaris, saw it posted somewhere that it was the way to go for just 2 people, but there were no other teams playing, we gave up and went back to quickplay, lol
Originally posted by uni790:
We tried Solaris, saw it posted somewhere that it was the way to go for just 2 people, but there were no other teams playing, we gave up and went back to quickplay, lol
Yeah, it would be semi-optimal, but it's also really dead at the moment. A casualty of a half dozen mode splits in the game with PGI trying to cater to each one at some degree without the activity to reliably sustain them all.
Alrik May 31, 2018 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by uni790:
These queues take far longer then a normal queue, I figure it's because the matchmaker is looking for a similar sized premade for the other team?
Nope.
The matchmaker trys to make up a 12 player team from groups of 2 - 12 players.
That is 10 group sizes (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 & 12) to combine and some of them only allow certain other group sizes (12, 10+2, 9+3,...)
Balancing is the last thing the matchmaker considers in group play...

There any way to speed up the matchmaking? Or do we just have to wait it out?
PGI could fix the size of the group to 4, 8, 12 players.
That would reduce the number of group sizes to 3, and also reduce the number of possible combinations.

But that would players force to invite other players from the looking for group lobby, and no real MWO Player likes that because there are no players in the LFG.
uni790 Jun 4, 2018 @ 5:21am 
Been in queue now for almost 20 mins.... this waiting is insane, probabily move off to another game, as I don't see this being fixed, games with far fewer players can make matchmaking work (fractured space) I don't understand why we have to wait for so long, just for the two of us to play together. I like the game and all, but when you have to wait for a half hour or more for a 5 miniute match(at best), it's just too much.
Zyrrashijn Jun 4, 2018 @ 5:43am 
Use the LFG function to drop in a larger group. 2-mans have a hard time finding matches during non-prime-time.
uni790 Jun 4, 2018 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by Zyrrashijn:
Use the LFG function to drop in a larger group. 2-mans have a hard time finding matches during non-prime-time.

This may be rude, but I have no intrest in building a larger group, just want to be able to play with a friend or two, at relitively random times. Sometimes it's only even for a couple matches, not worth wasting everyone elses time.
Zyrrashijn Jun 4, 2018 @ 6:17am 
Then you have no interest in using the only working solution for your situation, i'm sorry. The other one being solaris, which you already tried.
You can also try to find more friends to play with.
PimpToad Jun 4, 2018 @ 7:45am 
All I can say is welcome to MWO, the game that more or less punishes you for daring to simply play with a buddy or two. Your best bet is to try and sync drop with your buddy and hope for the best. If you're both in the same tier then perhaps you'll be in the same game, but not necessarily in the same team.

But yeah if you actually just want to play with a buddy? I highly suggest you go find another game to play. As far as I know, this horrible queue system has been in place since beta and I doubt they'll ever bother to realize how much of a turnoff it is for casual players.

And yes group queue in off hours is positively horrid and an annoyance even at peak hours. What sane person would wait several minutes for a game that will end faster than the queue itself and usually in a spectacular stomp fest?
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Date Posted: May 29, 2018 @ 8:51am
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