Cant find a match as a group.

[Swagmaster Love 🇪🇺]

Stuck in searching forever.
Why? Is that a feature?

If we queue up solo at the same time we instantly find the same matches.

[83athom]

Group queue always takes longer to find a match. Just go in solo and be a good teammate.

[Deckire]

it kinda strange, I would think that it is becaus of Tonnage Balancing, which causes Group Queues to have lower queue priority, unless it is a full 12 man group drop. They probably need to change the algorithm to make Group Queues higher priority.

As for Group Match up it is a Feature so you don't have to be lucky to drop with a friend. I would say it is a 70% chance that you will drop in the same game, I have tried it before doesn't always work.

Even if it is the same group it still a 50% chance that you will be fighting in the same team.

[83athom]

引用自 Officer Sexy：

引用自 83athom：

Group queue always takes longer to find a match.

Why?

Group queue has to find a balancing againsts other teams, to match both mech tonnages and skill levels. When you queue solo, you only need to matchmake as one mech to fit into the match tonnages and skill levels.

[83athom]

引用自 Officer Sexy：

Wrong decision on the devs end, because the group finder isnt working properly and keeps you stuck in queue forever.

No, it was the correct desition because other wise the matchmaker kept grouping the groups heavily on one side, and they usually had a tonnage advantage as well. Group finder is working properly, its just not working how you WANT it to.

引用自 Officer Sexy：

The fact that I instantly end up on the same team as my friends when we all queue solo tells me that balance is not the issue for the long queuetimes as group.

Actually there is a good chance of your friends ending up on the other team as well, especially if you're all in similar tonnaged mechs. Its called "Sync Dropping", and if you do it 10-20 times in a row, you'll find it won't be putting you all on the same side ever match.

[Ishan451]

Don't let the door hit you, on your way out.

[83athom]

引用自 Officer Sexy：

Its not working as you can't find a match while the game is almost dead.

If you dont want groups to play your game and your game to die, then this is how you do it.

Bye.

Yes, because a multiplayer game averaging about 33k players a month is "almost dead".

[HighPlains Drifter]

引用自 83athom：

引用自 Officer Sexy：

Its not working as you can't find a match while the game is almost dead.

If you dont want groups to play your game and your game to die, then this is how you do it.

Bye.

Yes, because a multiplayer game averaging about 33k players a month is "almost dead".

Ignore him, this is the second thread he's made where he just goes troll and wigs out on somebody. Either serious personality disorder, or Trolling.... Not worth the time.

[HighPlains Drifter]

Wow, way to prove me wrong.... Or not...

[Laef]

I pretty much just drop in group, a long wait is 3-4 minutes. Are you trying to drop into faction play or something? You're clearly not too bright, so I wouldn't be surprised if the menu's confused you.

[Nightmare1]

引用自 Officer Sexy：

Stuck in searching forever.
Why? Is that a feature?

If we queue up solo at the same time we instantly find the same matches.

Group queuing takes into account your tonnage and your group's average PSR Tier, with the PSR being more heavily rated. Think of the groups as different sized, and oddly shaped, jigsaw pieces. As such, it may take an extra 30 seconds to find a match, but it's still pretty quick.

The solo queue behaves similarly, but since there are more "pieces" to choose from that are all the same size and similarly shaped, the MM can mix and match a bit more quickly.

Sync dropping is against the Terms of Service and a reportable and punishable offense, fyi. If I ever catch you sync dropping, I will report you too. ;-)

引用自 Officer Sexy：

引用自 83athom：

Group queue has to find a balancing againsts other teams, to match both mech tonnages and skill levels. When you queue solo, you only need to matchmake as one mech to fit into the match tonnages and skill levels.

Wrong decision on the devs end, because the group finder isnt working properly and keeps you stuck in queue forever.

There is a bug that can be experienced occasionally where the match search becomes stuck. It has nothing to do with the matchmaking though. I've noticed that it tends to be triggered most often when someone joins your group after you've started searching but before you find a match, although there are also other times when it will trigger. If you cancel the search, re-Ready, and then launch another search, you can typically find a match near-instantly.

引用自 Officer Sexy：

引用自 83athom：

No, it was the correct desition because other wise the matchmaker kept grouping the groups heavily on one side, and they usually had a tonnage advantage as well. Group finder is working properly, its just not working how you WANT it to.


Actually there is a good chance of your friends ending up on the other team as well, especially if you're all in similar tonnaged mechs. Its called "Sync Dropping", and if you do it 10-20 times in a row, you'll find it won't be putting you all on the same side ever match.

Its not working as you can't find a match while the game is almost dead.

If you dont want groups to play your game and your game to die, then this is how you do it.

Bye.

This is a fairly stupid statement to make considering the preponderance of evidence that exists to contradict it. You pretty much just shot yourself in the foot.

引用自 Officer Sexy：

引用自 83athom：

Yes, because a multiplayer game averaging about 33k players a month is "almost dead".

A game that cant find a match for a group within 20 minutes is dead not because of the playerbase, but because ot its matchmaker.

Anyway, enjoy your perfectly working matchmaker.
Have Fun.

There's no way you've searched for 20 minutes. This sounds like an angry exaggeration and I call bull on it.

The MM finds matches pretty quickly. It's real problem is that it doesn't do a very good job of balancing the teams. That's a very real and pertinent issue. However, search times in MWO are quicker than in a lot of other f2p games I play, so I wouldn't complain about them.

[Nightmare1]

引用自 Celtic Dragon：

引用自 Officer Sexy：

Stuck in searching forever.
Why? Is that a feature?

If we queue up solo at the same time we instantly find the same matches.

And this is why I walked away until Solaris comes out. There are a lot of other games. I would rather log on with a million other people then always play the same maps over and over with the same names. MWO = just a bunch of trolls, they deserve this.

Edit: Nightmare you are a nice guy but I can confirm that from Oceanic it's horrible. I have tried to get friends to play but no one likes waiting.

Thanks! :)

I'll take your word for it on Oceanic since I've never spent time on that server. I imagine that the time difference keeps you out of the other two servers' prime times.

[Nightmare1]

引用自 Officer Sexy：

引用自 Nightmare1：

Sync dropping is against the Terms of Service and a reportable and punishable offense, fyi. If I ever catch you sync dropping, I will report you too. ;-)

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, glad I came back to read this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
I just burst into laughter when I read that.

How to alienate and annihilate your playerbase 101.

引用自 Nightmare1：

There's no way you've searched for 20 minutes. This sounds like an angry exaggeration and I call bull on it.

The MM finds matches pretty quickly. It's real problem is that it doesn't do a very good job of balancing the teams. That's a very real and pertinent issue. However, search times in MWO are quicker than in a lot of other f2p games I play, so I wouldn't complain about them.

Most F2P games take a maximum 1 or 2 minutes to find a match as a group.
And... surprise, surprise; We're not the only ones who experience this issue with the retarded endless matchmaker.

You may call bull it, but we enjoyed our attempt of playing as a group.
After solid 10 minutes we even started playing an endless loop of elevator music via VOIP.


You may disagree all you want, but a 100% of F2P games can do without a non-functional and badly designed skillrating matchmaking algorithm.

I prefer an unfair match (skill-wise).
20 Minutes of queue-time with the option of being stuck forever in queue is not the way to go.

Pics or it didn't happen.

[Shadow of the SPQR]

Could well be time of day and region selection.

Going out as a group in solo probably just adds enough people to the pool to get the scattered folks together and form a match. In group quene, you cannot throw teams together just like that, and you're stuck trying to find teams that are roughly equivalent.

[vandalhooch]

1 - Would people who are trying to explain how things work please stop talking about the group queue matchmaker using tonnage as a factor. It absolutely does not take tonnage into account when building group queue matches. The tonnage range - group size mechanic was specifically created to eliminate the matchmaker's need to balance tonnage between teams.

2 - The OP is clearly trolling and is conflating his/her experience of being on only the oceanic server during a low population time of day with the experience of most players most of the time.

[vandalhooch]

引用自 Officer Sexy：

引用自 vandalhooch：

1 - Would people who are trying to explain how things work please stop talking about the group queue matchmaker using tonnage as a factor. It absolutely does not take tonnage into account when building group queue matches. The tonnage range - group size mechanic was specifically created to eliminate the matchmaker's need to balance tonnage between teams.

2 - The OP is clearly trolling and is conflating his/her experience of being on only the oceanic server during a low population time of day with the experience of most players most of the time.

Oh look, here we have another fanboy defending his flawless game with its flawless group matchmaking with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arguments.

Click on my profile.
What country is that?
Germany - Hence we did not only use Oceanic servers.

We played during peak-time

As I said: All that remains, people who are not able to comprehend the issue as everyone who was affected by it, mostly left the game for good.

Troll boy is a troll.