Total War: NAPOLEON - Definitive Edition

Total War: NAPOLEON - Definitive Edition

French units overpowered?
I know France was the Rome of its time but when 1 unit of light French horse beats 3 units of my dragoons it makes me wonder.

The French AI was totally ruthless, systematically besieging my settlements until I was wiped off the map. Not bad for Total War AI, they seemed to really nail it in this game.

But I do wonder about those French units.

Has anyone played a game where the French AI *hasn't* dominated the map?
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Yes. I've beaten the French as both Russia and Great Britian. The trick is not to attack the French immediatly. As you found their morale is very high and their units will not break. Morale is very important to the game AI. It determines when your troops will break and run.

Your troops gain morale as they fight. That is why it is very important not to loose an entire unit. When you do, you lose all their experience and must replace them with another inexperienced unit.

As Russia, you gain experince by defeating Prussia, Austria and the Ottomans (and the minor powers before taking on France.

As Great Britian you keep France poor by blockading all of their ports and take Wellington to Gabralter and fight Spain and Portugal first.

Pay attention to upgrades to your recruitment cities that effect Morale and Experience (the cheverons on the troops.) Drill Schools and Military Academies not only give you more recruitment slots but they produce troops that start with more cheverons (more experience and morale).

If you want to see the campaigns played by an expert. Check out this guy's channel. I found his channel when I was struggling and I learned a lot.

One last thing. Don't neglect to build the buildings that improve happiness. Major cities like Berlin and Paris will spawn rebellions which are 3 full armies of high morale troops if you don't. You'll still need to garrison them for several turns, but if you take one of the cities and you don't have a high enough happiness the garrison will not prevent a rebellion and that is very costly to put down.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ColdMeat247/featured
Many thanks. I'll check out that guy's channel. I was playing as Prussia by the way.
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Many thanks. I'll check out that guy's channel. I was playing as Prussia by the way.

Oh, Prussia is the hardest faction to play. Napoleon keeps sending in troops to threaten Berlin.

I have not won playing as Prussia. But I do know that you must take Saxony very early in the campaign or they will ally with Austria and you don't want to be at war with Russia, France and Austria at the same time. Taking them early will prevent this.

But yeah France keeps sending troops to threaten Berlin and it's a real pain.
diplomacy is key to winning the war. make your friends as many as you can.
prussian's capital is placed of front of rhine, you can weave the agressive strategy.
remember. you should making friends,and prevent french trade by pressuring opponent countries.
then, your play will be easy.
I played Russia on Easy campaign, Normal battles and got stomped in short order by the French AI. Didn't even make it to 1812 the AI was so relentless. I swear it can build a limitless amount of full stacks and not seem to pay any maintenance on them? My troops gained some good experience destroying the despised Ottomans but were still no match for the French.

Next I'm going to play as France and see if I can win as Nappy :) I will despair if I can't...
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I played Russia on Easy campaign, Normal battles and got stomped in short order by the French AI. Didn't even make it to 1812 the AI was so relentless. I swear it can build a limitless amount of full stacks and not seem to pay any maintenance on them? My troops gained some good experience destroying the despised Ottomans but were still no match for the French.

Next I'm going to play as France and see if I can win as Nappy :) I will despair if I can't...

I think the trick to winning as Russia is to ignore the goals and go after Prussia first. Taking their two major cities gives you access to better troops and experience. Then go after Austria and the Ottomans. In this way you gain more experience are are better equiped to take on the French.

If you are really interested in playing Russia, take a look at Coldmeat's campaign. I played Russia before finding his channel but we both took out Prussia first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf2zm66-mgk&list=PLZileY552L1p_yTWcf7tdYdQES0YvVGF3
Thanks for your advice once again, casualsailor. I'll probably check out these vids before trying Russia again. I'm not playing Darthmod though.
I'm still having trouble understanding exactly as to how you can possibly loose three cav units to one. I just can't comprehend it at all.

Apparently you play on a fairly mild campaign and battle difficulty so it definitely can't be ridiculously boosted stats for the A.I.

Were your cavalrymen fighting an uphill battle? Were they tired out or at least more tired than that of the French cav? Were you men completely inexperienced or had vastly less experience than their French counterpart? What types of cavalry did you and the French used? Heck, exactly what units were involved? Did you blobbed up your cavalrymen on that one French cav, instead of having two of them charge from the rear or sides? Are you really sure that the French cav absolutely received no support of any kind?

Also, do you have the battle saved in a replay. Could you show me a screenshot then?

Sorry, I'm just really curious as to exactly how you lost that situation.
I think they were pretty tired, at least some of them. They were probably less experienced too. I used Dragoons, I believe the French were light cav. I must have blobbed them up. I don't think the French had any support. All 3 of my units eventually routed. I don't have it saved I'm afraid.
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I think they were pretty tired, at least some of them. They were probably less experienced too. I used Dragoons, I believe the French were light cav. I must have blobbed them up. I don't think the French had any support. All 3 of my units eventually routed. I don't have it saved I'm afraid.

It's just the French. But Dragoons are not the best melee fighters since they can also fight dismounted. But compare the numbres:

Polish Guard Lancers (French) Melee 12, Charge Bonus 44, Defence 11, Morale 12

Dragoons (Prussia) Melee 10, Charge Bonus 16, Defence 12, Morale 8

The French units have 50% more morale in this instance. Which means they are not going to break first. And if Napoleon is near they get a significant morale boost which is even higher than when your General is near your own troops.

And tired troops will be less effective and break quicker than rested ones.

But it is possible to defeat the French. I don't think I ever lost a battle when I had fresh troops.

My issue with playig Prussia was that I was getting attacked by several factions simultaneously and France kept attacking me while my troops were recovering. And that is just the nature of playing Prussia.

But I never had trouble with France as either Great Britian or Russia since my strategy saved them for later in the game when my morale was on par with theirs. I don't recall the numbers off hand but for every x units of experience your unit gains they gain a single morale point.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: casualsailor; 2016. ápr. 28., 9:11
every faction has it's own special buff. For France it is cavalry and artillery, for Great Britain it is line infantry and navy, for Russia it is artillery and charge bonuses, etc... it really keeps the factions rather balanced when you know how to use their special units properly against one another
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