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shteev Feb 19, 2015 @ 8:18am
Planning an 'all achievements' run
SPOILERS!

So I thought it'd be a thing I could do to play a single game in which I collected all 20 Steam achievements.

The three most relevant ones would be:
Smooth as F*ck - Spend the night with ALL the girls without failing a single date.
Pickup Legend - Spend the night with ALL the girls within 18 days.
Lucky Loser - Spend the night with 3 girls without upgrading any of your traits.

I've had a couple of runs and lost a date at around date #15, where not upgrading your stats is really making an impact. So I've decided to do a bit of planning...

The total number of potential dates you can have by the end of day 18, I think, is 67:
Day 1 = 8 dates (start in the Mall!)
Day 2 to 18 = 4x17 = 68
Subtract 1 date for each girl, since when you spend the night with them you can't spend the morning with a different girl = -12 dates
You gain an extra date (I think!) when you activate 3 secret girls: +3 dates

But day 18, we must have had 48 successful dates, so we can skip a maximum of 19 leaving no margin for error.

By day 6, we MUST have had 12 successful dates with 3 girls, out of a possible 27. That's 15 dates skipped. Sounds doable! It's possible we'll get stung on day 6, tho, if our 3rd girl is unavailable at night. The only way to avoid this is by having a backup girl... this means completing 16 successful dates without upgrades. Sounds difficult.

We can't talk to the girls, or buy alcohol, and early on we can't spend Hunie, so we should buy only gifts the girls love for Date Gifts. We want as many Date Gifts as possible so we can hopefully acquire the powerful ones which will let us complete dates despite having no upgrades.

We can also buy Food for extra moves once the dates start getting trickier because of our lack of upgrades.

After day 6, we're allowed to start spending Hunie on upgrades, so we want to immediately upgrade one stat and start dating girls who favour it.... I'm thinking Romance or Flirtation, since early on there will be more girls available who like it.

That's enough planning for the moment. A question before I kick off, tho:

Do I have to give the weird thingie to Nikki at the beach to activate Celeste, or can it be any girl? Also, does it have to be at night, or can it be in the evening?
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shteev Feb 19, 2015 @ 8:52am 
Oh, also... can you skip the tutorial?
Slashley Feb 19, 2015 @ 9:00am 
I really, really don't think it's doable. 18 days for all the girls without Alcohol AND talking to them? Even ignoring the "no dates failed" achi, you'll be so low on levels that you'll need to be an RNG GOD to pull it off.

In theory it is possible, I mean, Alpha mode has proven that date gifts let you go as high as you want. But you'll need to be really lucky considering the 18 time limit.
I tried it, wanted to do the same 3 achievements at the same time.
Ugh, what a pain...Fail 1 date > start a new savegame.
Howru Feb 19, 2015 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by shteev:
Do I have to give the weird thingie to Nikki at the beach to activate Celeste, or can it be any girl? Also, does it have to be at night, or can it be in the evening?

1) Any girl
2) Night only
Gentleman Feb 19, 2015 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Slashley:
I really, really don't think it's doable. 18 days for all the girls without Alcohol AND talking to them? Even ignoring the "no dates failed" achi, you'll be so low on levels that you'll need to be an RNG GOD to pull it off.

Perfectly do-able, as a matter of fact, I did No Talking, No Alcohol, No Fail and Pickup Legend achievements on the same run as well :skyecute::gokigen:

Inlcuding Lucky Loser into the mix is going to be a pretty hellish challenge: I tried it at first, but quickly gave up.

Anyway, good luck, Shteev!
shteev Feb 19, 2015 @ 12:31pm 
So my last run was a bit of an experiment. I occured to me that if I only meet 3 girls on day one, then I can save all the other meet and greets for day 7, and get extra potential dates then. Um, I'm not sure what it achieves, doing this... but it was a thing so I thought I'd try it.

Anyway, this turned out to be a really bad idea. Not meeting all of the girls on day 1 put severe limitations on the number of Date Gifts I was able to acquire. Without powerful Date Gifts, and especially powerful combos of Date Gifts, I found myself really struggling and I failed on date #11.

Date #11 sounds better than it is. Technically, you only need to go on 12 dates by day 6 without upgrades. This does mean, tho, that the correct girl HAS to be available at night on day 6. Also, having not dated anyone else, you won't be able to get a night date again until day 10, so you have *just* enough time to get jiggy with the rest of the girls, ending on day 18... but I don't fancy getting that far through the game and finding out my last girl is asleep.

So, really I'd like a 'backup' girl for day 6, which means going on 15 dates without upgrades. This also allows me to finish the game on day 17, giving me some wiggle room. That's 3 more unupgraded dates, tho...

I haven't even begun to worry about how low my Hunie will be for upgrades once I reach day 7. one thing at a time, eh?

Originally posted by Howru:
Originally posted by shteev:
Do I have to give the weird thingie to Nikki at the beach to activate Celeste, or can it be any girl? Also, does it have to be at night, or can it be in the evening?

1) Any girl
2) Night only

Hmm... presumably this means that I can't have a successful night date on the night that I encounter Celeste. If I take the girl home that I went there to meet, then I won't end up meeting Celeste at all... So THAT means I definitely can't have just 12 dates in the first 6 days. Although I don't need 15 dates, I could scrape by with 13...
Light Feb 19, 2015 @ 3:20pm 
Your best bet is to obtain lucky loser first. I've tried to land them all, but lack of traits really bites your winning streak in the ass before the third girl becomes your hunie.

With that achievement aside, it's not difficult to obtain all the others within a single playthrough with a fair bit of planning ahead.

Good luck to you if you intend to follow through. Though you'd save yourself a lot of time going for 19 instead of 20.
Last edited by Light; Feb 19, 2015 @ 3:21pm
shteev Feb 20, 2015 @ 5:06pm 
Today's run started well, but came adrift at the end.

This time I played aggressively for Date Gifts. I met all 8 girls on day 1 and dated just enough of them to afford all the Date Gifts I could potentially get. Over the next 3 days I set up my first 3 girls for nights 4, 5 and 6 for the Lucky Loser achievement, dated Aiko 3 times as a backup in case anyone was unavailable, and spent the rest of the time visiting the girls whom I could get the most Date Gifts out of from what was in the shop. By the end of day 2 I had 15 Date Gifts, and by day 6 I had enough powerful ones to get me through the last unupgraded dates.

As soon as the dates started getting really tricky I'd make sure I saved 600 Munie per date to buy Food for extra moves. (It's worth checking which girls eat which foods so you don't get to the last date of the day and realise there's nothing she will eat).

On day 7 I started on the upgrades. I sunk 3 pts into Passion and 3 into Flirtation, and started dating the 3 girls who favor Flirtation. The dates suddenly became very easy :)

Also, since I couldn't get a night date for a couple of days, I picked up Celeste from the beach.

Hunie didn't turn out to be a problem at all. I stopped buying the girls items for Date Gifts and started buying them for Hunie instead.... there's really nothing else for me to spend my Munie on. If I saw an expensive item which I was unable to give to a girl on a particular day, I'd buy it and save it in my inventory until I met the right girl.

So far, so good. There were a couple of hiccups with girls not being available when I wanted them to be, and I foolishly met Kyu at night once thinking I'd dated her 3 times already when I hadn't, but I was still on course for a day 18 completion. (This makes me think that dating a fourth girl in the first 6 days is essential. You need some margin for error)

But then came the FATAL ERROR... I didn't start dating Beli until day 12. I didn't even notice what I'd done at first, but then Beli left town for 2 days and I realised that in order to finish on day 18 I'd have to start dating Venus on day 15, which meant finishing with the first 8 girls by day 14 at the lastest.

NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Ah well, it beats playing another 30 games on Alpha Mode :)

MVP of the day: Peep Toe Heels. When playing those unupgraded dates on the first few days, an accidental match of Broken Hearts can be devastating. That doesn't happen if you give your girl Peep Toe Heels :)
shteev Feb 20, 2015 @ 5:08pm 
A thought: Is Beli out of town on days 13-14 every time you play, or do the girls just leave town randomly? I know Lola likes to jet off around the world at a moment's notice, but I thought Beli was more homely than that... :hp_beli:
Karretch Feb 20, 2015 @ 8:32pm 
While it may seem cheaty, I know that if you fail a date but close the game before it registers you can save scum (reload the game from start of encounter). The only downside to this is if you got a date gift from that encounter that you really want you won't have it when reloading.
Rhy Feb 20, 2015 @ 8:55pm 
Is there any way to affect what the shop sells? I'm ~15 items from 100%ing my save file but the shop rarely, if ever, stocks an item I need.
Karretch Feb 20, 2015 @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by Rhy:
Is there any way to affect what the shop sells? I'm ~15 items from 100%ing my save file but the shop rarely, if ever, stocks an item I need.
That's what the option for buying gifts for Hunie is for. Go to a girl's page that lists the gifts, click one, say "yes" to buy for 10k Hunie
MDuh Feb 21, 2015 @ 2:11am 
ok I'll join your quest, but doing in hard difficulty

I just tried my first attempt. I planned to date audrey, tiffany, and lola at the first day. Also buying the gifts they like.

I failed at the 3rd girl since the affection goal is @ 246 for the 3rd date.

I think this is impossible(for hard) especially with the no alcohol and no upgrades before bedding the 3 girls restriction.

next attempt, I'll try to do only 2 girls at the first day and see if I can manage to survive to day 2
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shteev Feb 21, 2015 @ 3:26am 
Originally posted by Karretch:
While it may seem cheaty, I know that if you fail a date but close the game before it registers you can save scum (reload the game from start of encounter). The only downside to this is if you got a date gift from that encounter that you really want you won't have it when reloading.

To me this seems against the spirit of the venture. If you want to try it tho, go ahead... it's hard enough as it is!


Originally posted by MDuh:
ok I'll join your quest, but doing in hard difficulty

Good man. I admire your spirit! Actually I thought I *was* doing it on hard until yesterday, when I realised that restarting the game had bumped me back to normal difficulty. Now I've proved it's possible to myself on normal I'll try hard today. The part of my brain that wants to challenge me wants me to ban myself using Pearl Necklace as well, but that could just be crazy talk.

Originally posted by MDuh:
I failed at the 3rd girl since the affection goal is @ 246 for the 3rd date.

On normal mode the affection goal is 185, so that's a hike of about 33%.

Originally posted by MDuh:
next attempt, I'll try to do only 2 girls at the first day and see if I can manage to survive to day 2

The problem is that if you're going to buy 8 or more Date Gifts on day 1, you'll need the Munie from somewhere.... anyway, good luck!
shteev Feb 24, 2015 @ 7:35am 
Job done!

A few relevant notes:

I *think* the girls run on a schedule, and go to the same places every time you play. I'm not entirely sure since I didn't record a lot of data, but I certainly had 2 games where the following happened: Tiffany was asleep at night on days 4 & 6, Kyanna was asleep at night on days 5 & 8, Beli was out of town days 6 & 7, Lola was out of town days 2, 7, 8, & 9, Nikki was on the beach at night on day 8, and nobody (or at least nobody I could access) was on the beach at night on days 7 & 9.

You can turn almost every item you buy in the shop into a Date Gift early on. Kyu becomes active on day 5, so you can give her Dancer items, and you can probably get Momo pretty soon too, for Aquarium items... the items in the shop are not completely random, you usually get cheaper ones before expensive ones become available, and the Goldfish are the cheapest Aquarium item. This only leaves Scuba and Garden items which cannot be converted. Buy ALL of them, and leave them in your inventory for later if you can't give them to a girl on the current day. This will give you, on average, about 10 Date Gifts a day. By day 4 you should be able to build up a really great set to play with. I recommend combos of gifts which give you extra moves, like Stuffed Penguin+Gold Earrings, or Sunflower+Cork Wedge Sandals, or, y'know, maybe just all 4 of them :)

Your inventory might get pretty full, but *don't* throw away any Date Gifts until you have all the ones you want, or you might be given a second copy of them (I don't know if this can happen or not, but better not take any chances, eh?)

Once you have all of the Date Gifts that you want, stop giving gifts to girls who love them and start giving them to the the girls who just like them, for Hunie. You may well not finish the game with enough Munie to max out all your stats, so try and clean out the shop every day, as every single item will be wanted by at least one girl who will give you Hunie for it. Don't buy any Unique Gifts at all, they're only any use if you talk to the girls.

Save Munie for Food for those tricky dates on days 4-6! If you *really* want to plan everything like a military campaign, don't forget you can buy Food for later days and store it in your inventory if you have space, and also check which girls eat which Food.

In my final attempt I built up a solid set of Date Gifts and went on 22 unupgraded dates in the first 6 days, and I still finished with no time to spare on day 18. (I managed day 8 badly tho, I visited Nikki in the evening so I was unable to visit her on the beach at night, and Kyanna who I was planning to complete was asleep). I suspect Venus will all always be available in the last few days, otherwide the game developers will get some angry letters from people going for the Pickup Legend achievement. I strongly advise anyone attempting an all achievements run to do as many dates as they can manage in the first 6 days. You don't have to do all 8 dates on day 1, tho, get some powerful Date Gifts before doing the harder dates.

The affection goal for date 22 on Hard mode was 1,895. If there's a way of doing that unupgraded without the Pearl Necklace, then I would like to know what it is!

:hp_beli:
Last edited by shteev; Feb 24, 2015 @ 7:35am
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