GM I need explanation

[CheeseBall]

I see players who will 100% not jump for pump fake, and 100% block when I actually shoots.

Is this humanly possible?

Cuz when I let my friend pump fake and I try to block, not even once was I able to do this. If I jump too early I will fall for pump fake, and if I try to see feet leaving ground or ball leaving hand I 100% fail to block cuz it's too late.

So GM plz explain to me, if somebody can 100% distinguish pump fake and real shot while being able to block 100% of the real shot, is that legitimate play? If it is legitimate, then how many frames, or how many seconds, of time window do you have to perform block after confirming real shot? Because human reaction time is 0.15-0.2 sec, you need at least 0.15-0.2 sec of time window to do this.

[MIYAVI]

you're right and this is especially the case with newer spc, which are all 100% broken and faster and almost impossible to detect fakes.

[CheeseBall]

I'm suspecting the players being able to distinguish pump fakes and block the real shots at 100% or almost 100% rate is using speed hack.

[CheeseBall]

OK so it's 100% cheat if he doesn't fall for pump fake cuz it's not humanly possible?

And GM I'm still waiting for your explanation, is it possible to tell 100% pump fake with human reaction time? PLZ explain.

[[GM] Clyde]

Hello,

While some legitimate players can accurately distinguish or predict when someone will use not just a pump fake, but also other skills during a specific moment of the match, this cannot be done 100% accurately if the player being defended have the same level of skill as the one who defends. In order for us to review your concern further, may we humbly suggest sending us a support ticket with an attached replay file showing the issue. You can send it on our email: [e-mail]

Regards

[CheeseBall]

GM you are not even answering my question

I'm not talking about prediction, prediction is only right 50% the time, I'm talking about the ability to distinguish pump fake while being able to block at close to 100% rate. Is this normal behavior or just blatant hack?

[CheeseBall]

Originally posted by Gabriel:

Well tbh as you probably know some spcs have animations that actually help with blocking further and/or later and maybe some players just know when to block perfectly. They're called nerds

I don't think being a nerd provide you the ability to perform super human deeds

Some of the top players I've talked to, they say this is impossible without using some kind of hack or external program

[CheeseBall]

Originally posted by Gabriel:

Originally posted by Usaneko:

I don't think being a nerd provide you the ability to perform super human deeds

Some of the top players I've talked to, they say this is impossible without using some kind of hack or external program

I mean, you can just guide yourself through announcer audio queues, probably not that hard. Announcer doesn't say anything when you fake. That's what i'm trying to practice myself

It's too late to block when you confirm the announcer sound though, I'm talking about 100% block success rate against real shot while 100% not falling for fake

I've seen somebody pump fake like 10 times in a row and the hacker didn't jump, and the moment he released shot the hacker blocked it instantly

[[GM] Clyde]

Hello Usaneko,

As I have mentioned, this cannot be done 100% accurately on the entire match. I do hope you understand what I was suggesting. that if you are suspecting someone for using a hack tool, you may send us a support ticket along with the replay file of the reported player so we can further investigate your concern.

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

game Logic of making shots is stupid . SGs will make 25% contested 3pt shots whiile me a SF with 250 mid att misses 100% green. i dont believe anything these GMs say. Game is all RNG at this point .

[CheeseBall]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_6NNcOyy5k
this SF named Nari,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea4VHqum8KI&t=61s
this DG named xEARTHz

They both using auto block hack, or using stat hack maybe(for extremely high block stats like >400?). You can see they both will rarely jump for the fake, and blocks real shot at almost 100% rate, they do miss some blocks but dunno maybe that is due to lag?
There is no way you can confirm the ball leave hands, or feet leaving ground, or hearing sound effect, and still being able to block. Fake is impossible to distinguish, I've tested it with a C(260 block with 2 manual block range) and the C can't even block even once out of 10 tries. And I don't think it is a problem with lag(we did it in waiting room not in a match) or him having slow reaction(most humans have similar reaction time unless you are extremely old or sick).

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
You can test your own reaction time here, it's mostly within 0.2 sec range, if you have extremely fast reaction time maybe you can get it to like 0.15 or so, but you won't be able to consistently hit that every single time.

[Saitama1210]

You, Usaneko, sir or ma'am or whatever, need to stop being so ignorant, there are people having extremely fast reaction, and they have probably spent numerous hours on observing shooting motions in slow-mo just to get the idea of when to jump and when not to, and of course sometimes better PC hardware helps too. Remember why there are athletes and E-athletes in this world, they are extraordinary people! It is revolting to see you keep complaining and disregarding people's ability to play this game better than you. Do you also complain and hate on people who earn more than you at work, lift more than you at gym, do better than you at school just because they invest more time than you to practise and perfect things in fair and justice way? Jesus, grow up, never seen such a whiny person with absolutely no gratitude or appreciation toward anything, all you ever do in this community is whine, complain, and ♥♥♥♥ on everything. Despite all the room for improvement and definitely more than a handful of hackers in this game, you simply cannot accuse all these players for hacking just because they can tell the subtle differences in game and react the correct way when you are unable to do the same. It is embarrassing to see a human being that I share the same species with behaves like this, so please take the GM advice, which is very adequate, suck it up, and stop being a baby. I'm not here to argue, it's just very upsetting to see a species with supposedly better usage of brain to act like this and I can't help but say it all at once.
Summary: you can keep playing or freaking QUIT already.

[CheeseBall]

Originally posted by Saitama1210:

You, Usaneko, sir or ma'am or whatever, need to stop being so ignorant, there are people having extremely fast reaction, and they have probably spent numerous hours on observing shooting motions in slow-mo just to get the idea of when to jump and when not to, and of course sometimes better PC hardware helps too. Remember why there are athletes and E-athletes in this world, they are extraordinary people! It is revolting to see you keep complaining and disregarding people's ability to play this game better than you. Do you also complain and hate on people who earn more than you at work, lift more than you at gym, do better than you at school just because they invest more time than you to practise and perfect things in fair and justice way? Jesus, grow up, never seen such a whiny person with absolutely no gratitude or appreciation toward anything, all you ever do in this community is whine, complain, and ♥♥♥♥ on everything. Despite all the room for improvement and definitely more than a handful of hackers in this game, you simply cannot accuse all these players for hacking just because they can tell the subtle differences in game and react the correct way when you are unable to do the same. It is embarrassing to see a human being that I share the same species with behaves like this, so please take the GM advice, which is very adequate, suck it up, and stop being a baby. I'm not here to argue, it's just very upsetting to see a species with supposedly better usage of brain to act like this and I can't help but say it all at once.
Summary: you can keep playing or freaking QUIT already.

LOL all your ♥♥♥♥ talk is nonsense unless you can prove you can do it legitimately, if you can't then just STFU. I will STFU if you can prove that being able to 100% react to pump fake is legitimate.

All you talk about E-athletes being extraordinary is BS, it's scientifically proven that human reaction time cannot exceed certain range. Again I will STFU if you can scientifically prove that certain human being able to have super fast reaction time.

I actually speak all of these based on facts, and all you talk is backed by nothing, make a video guide on how to 100% react to pump fake without using any 3rd party software and I will believe you, until then you are just a liar speaking based on no proof.

[DBDB]

Originally posted by Usaneko:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_6NNcOyy5k
this SF named Nari,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea4VHqum8KI&t=61s
this DG named xEARTHz

They both using auto block hack, or using stat hack maybe(for extremely high block stats like >400?). You can see they both will rarely jump for the fake, and blocks real shot at almost 100% rate, they do miss some blocks but dunno maybe that is due to lag?
There is no way you can confirm the ball leave hands, or feet leaving ground, or hearing sound effect, and still being able to block. Fake is impossible to distinguish, I've tested it with a C(260 block with 2 manual block range) and the C can't even block even once out of 10 tries. And I don't think it is a problem with lag(we did it in waiting room not in a match) or him having slow reaction(most humans have similar reaction time unless you are extremely old or sick).

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
You can test your own reaction time here, it's mostly within 0.2 sec range, if you have extremely fast reaction time maybe you can get it to like 0.15 or so, but you won't be able to consistently hit that every single time.

I kind of agree. They are very suspicious.

[[GM] Clyde]

Originally posted by Usaneko:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_6NNcOyy5k
this SF named Nari,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea4VHqum8KI&t=61s
this DG named xEARTHz

They both using auto block hack, or using stat hack maybe(for extremely high block stats like >400?). You can see they both will rarely jump for the fake, and blocks real shot at almost 100% rate, they do miss some blocks but dunno maybe that is due to lag?
There is no way you can confirm the ball leave hands, or feet leaving ground, or hearing sound effect, and still being able to block. Fake is impossible to distinguish, I've tested it with a C(260 block with 2 manual block range) and the C can't even block even once out of 10 tries. And I don't think it is a problem with lag(we did it in waiting room not in a match) or him having slow reaction(most humans have similar reaction time unless you are extremely old or sick).

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
You can test your own reaction time here, it's mostly within 0.2 sec range, if you have extremely fast reaction time maybe you can get it to like 0.15 or so, but you won't be able to consistently hit that every single time.

Hello,

From your original concern, asking us if somebody can 100% distinguish pump fake from real shot. Upon carefully reviewing the video links, we found out that the players you are suspecting for cheating were shown to not 100% distinguish pump fakes. May we suggest sending us a legitimate report showing your original concern for further assistance.

Regards

[CheeseBall]

I'm not saying absolutely 100%, just close to 100%, look at the 2nd match of the Nari, video, if you count it he did it at over 90% accuracy.(excluding shots from quick change, quick jumper, or backroll cuz those have timing fake, which may cause the auto block program to not function) The SG from other team used pump fake over 20 times and Nari, only jumped for pump fake once(at beginning of the match, and never jumped for pump fake for the rest of match), and missed block once, that is absurd level of successfully being able to distinguish pump fakes.

Look at the end of video(11:57), it's hilarious how the SG pump fake 5 times and Nari, instantly jumped for the real shot, while the PF in front of her could not react to the real shot at all. The conclusion would be, Nari, is the one who can distinguish pump fakes almost perfectly, while the PF on her team cannot(because the PF is just relying on guess like other normal players).