I want your opinion on something the Prepper said... [Spoilers]

[jtcLIVE]

So after beating the game again and listening to the Prepper screaming at you (Whoever did the voice acting was quite good), the Prepper said something that got me thinking:

"You people are all like spoiled children, you TAKE TAKE TAKE!"

The Prepper gave you everything you had by helping you through the game, giving you advice, a safe place to sleep, a storage... And yet you go and ignore his words and wishes half of the time.

So my question for y'all is:

Would you say the Character is selfish for ignoring the Prepper and leaving London on the evac chopper, or would you say the Prepper is selfish for wanting you to die with him? And why.

[Rockhead Gaz]

Definitely The Prepper. He doesn't do anything for the player, other than offer some advice. He sits in safety, whilst the player does all the legwork. I don't think The Prepper has any intention of dying - in the early game, at least, his motive seems to be to use the player to stockpile as much ammo, weapons and food as possible in the saferoom, which he presumably has intentions on keeping for himself when the player character dies. I don't think his intentions are noble or just, even when he seems to be offering help.

The player, on the other hand, whether or not they wish to, tries to aid others, as well as trying as much as possible to follow The Prepper's survival advice - if anything, the player character(s) are too helpful and selfless, and inevitably, there's a conflict of interests.

[V I D A L]

In some way the Prepper is using you, but in a "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" kind of way. I don't think he is necessarily waiting for you to die just so he can keep the supplies you collected. No, he seem to care about you and he gets really disappointed when you die. The thing is, his approach to this situation is not to run away.. he believes no place in the planet will be any different... so his mission is to create a community, fortify the vicinity and stock up. He is really trying to create a safe zone for survivors to live as a community right there. So in fact he feels used when after all the time he invested on you, you decide to run away and leave him.

He believes in every word of the prophecy because up to that point everything checked out. And the prophecy says that everyone who is not prepped will die. Meaning, running away trying to find a place where the plague didn't hit is not the way to go, but instead be prepared for it. He is sticking with the prophecy and doing what is said to be the way to survive through this.

So I think the player is more selfish than the Prepper at the end, but rightly so, you still believe there might be better places out there while the Prepper had given up that idea long ago.

Prepper on the other hand gets mad at you because you became a time wasted for him, as he believes you will die out there in this foolish attempt to run away instead of making base and be prepared like the prophecy suggested. So all the time he invested on you was for nothing as you decided not to stay and help him build his community.

[Grim Sorrow]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

In some way the Prepper is using you, but in a "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" kind of way. I don't think he is necessarily waiting for you to die just so he can keep the supplies you collected. No, he seem to care about you and he gets really disappointed when you die. The thing is, his approach to this situation is not to run away.. he believes no place in the planet will be any different... so his mission is to create a community, fortify the vicinity and stock up. He is really trying to create a safe zone for survivors to live as a community right there. So in fact he feels used when after all the time he invested on you, you decide to run away and leave him.

He believes in every word of the prophecy because up to that point everything checked out. And the prophecy says that everyone who is not prepped will die. Meaning, running away trying to find a place where the plague didn't hit is not the way to go, but instead be prepared for it. He is sticking with the prophecy and doing what is said to be the way to survive through this.

So I think the player is more selfish than the Prepper at the end, but rightly so, you still believe there might be better places out there while the Prepper had given up that idea long ago.

Prepper on the other hand gets mad at you because you became a time wasted for him, as he believes you will die out there in this foolish attempt to run away instead of making base and be prepared like the prophecy suggested. So all the time he invested on you was for nothing as you decided not to stay and help him build his community.

I agree prepper is salty because he feel betrayed

[Pirien]

If you pay close attention to what Sondra Kelley tells you, find her two letters (one is in Ron Freedman's flat and one is in the safe house) and read some of the Queen's letters it is revealed that Prepper's first name is John, that he was part of the Omega Group and that he and Sondra were in a relationship before the second blight happened.

He got to know her since he knew about Dee's prophecy and tried to warn everyone but found himself forced to join the Ravens since noone would believe him. He went on a rampage and tried to forcibly enter the Buckingham Palace's Royal Chambers to speak to the Queen, who he believes is also knowing about Dee's prophecy.

They caught him, threw him out of the Omega Group, imprisoned him and then sent him to a sanitarium. Since they found he had no mental disorder they let him go, but Prepper was mad at everyone and started to prepare for the second blight. Apparently he was so bitter that he turned into a complete jerk and because of that Sondra left him.

Prepper is a man who tried to save the world but everyone just laughed at him before they tried to get rid of him. He believed that joining the Ravens would help him, but they also let him down. He is a bitter and broken man who doesn't expect anything aside from disappointment, but just can't stop hoping to achieve something good one day. That's why he still tries to help survivors.

I don't think he really uses any of the survivors to stock up on food and ammo, but merely takes all gathered supplies of a dead survivor to ensure his own survival. Seeing all those supplies in the (first) ending cinematic could suggest that Prepper already lost a lot survivors to the blight.

Thinking about it, it's actually a very sad story.

[Rockhead Gaz]

I'm not so sure. The Prepper has no issue sending player characters to their deaths, all in the name of stockpiling the safehouse. Yes, he gives advice on survival in the game's environment, as well the pad, which is useful, but fairly ineffective as far as raw survival goes. Any time the player does stray from that one singular goal of stocking the safehouse, The Prepper takes the huff, claiming the risk to reward to be far too high - whether out of concern for player wellbeing or not, he's just as capable of sending the player into such dangerous situations when it suits him. Even if it is a mutually beneficial arrangement, it's a very one-sided one.

His attitude to the player helping other people sums up his motives for me, regardless of his background - he cares very little about their fate, in fact he discourages any attempt to provide aid, and there's no reason to believe, at the time the game takes place, that he is anymore invested in the player past the point of them being a useful tool for stocking up on supplies.

[VAAM the Anomaly-AA-]

The Prepper's attitude personally shocked me. The main reason is, you dont really have a choice in the matter. I could understand if they gave you choices that had outcomes throughout the game, but they dont. The prepper will yell at you no matter how good or bad you do with the "3 ways to beat the game". Personally I think the prepper is delusional and the selfish one because I mean how long does he think that little gig he has going is going to last?

In the ZA scenario, sooner or later, the power eventually goes out either by someone destroying it on purpose or accidental or the zombies blunder into the grid and short it out permanently. Even generators need fuel which is limited. Food and ammo are also limited and eventually run out which is why you have to move on. Does the prepper want you two to exhaust ALL supplies and THEN try to find another safe zone or move to it while you have some?

The prepper is a clear case of ego mania and pride. He is only ranting and mad because he FEELS betrayed because you joined someone else and that someone else just so happens to be the crew he USED to roll with.

[Cyandos]

Originally posted by V I D A L:

In some way the Prepper is using you, but in a "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" kind of way. I don't think he is necessarily waiting for you to die just so he can keep the supplies you collected. No, he seems to care about you and he gets really disappointed when you die.

The Prepper has different voice lines depending on your Survivor Score when you die. If you have like less than 500 (Or something like that) he just says "Good riddance."