AI Enemies

[cerbralone]

I have noticed that AI enemies expand and control way to well even on very low aggression. Play with a few of my family members and we would get wiped after about 15 minutes, whether it was on low difficulty or very low.

[Daya.Mar.Sana]

Yea they spread like wildfire, but drive their people down to near poverty and extinction. As a fryhatan its just best to level entire towns to prevent the humans from speading ;)

Course if you are human, thats bad for reputation, so you want to just.. fight them earlier or you'll have to learn some tactics :p

Dunno, kind of would be nice if they'd have atleast a little restraint from expanding accross the entirety of the map at the lowest aggression settings, so I can agree with you atleast on that part.

Also, Inns are amazing backup armies if you have the money laying around.

[Enlight Software]

Were you playing the latest version v2.07 already?

http://steamcommunity.com/games/7k2hd/announcements/detail/230017491942588523

[Ayback]

They do seem to expand fairly quickly, and they will attack you in huge numbers. I generally win by getting two full armies of special units (depending on your faction) lead by a good general (or hero if possible.) Just take out the enemy forts and buildings until their peasants rebel, and then leave. Eventually the enemy's reputation will be so low that he won't be able to control his own kingdom, no matter how big it is!

Expanding as quickly as the AI in the early game is easy once you know how. I have trouble expanding later on though, when I'm trying to pay attention to other things. It also gets tricky when one AI team surrenders to another. I've seen a kingdom take up 3/4ths of the map very quickly just from having others surrender to it early.

One thing I used to always forget is that you can move your town if you start out close to Frythans. The AI Frythans will leave you alone while you get your wagons away.

[Enlight Software]

Seven Kingdoms 2 HD v2.07 Improvements:

The costs of breeding new Fryhtan (monster) units have been increased for improved gameplay balance.

The issue that some users have previously reported about the Fryhtans being too aggressive in attacking the humans has thus been resolved. Attacks from Fryhtans will be less frequent.

With this change, the player will be able to focus on long term strategic planning for building an empire, bringing Seven Kingdoms 2 HD’s pace of gameplay closer to the original Seven Kingdoms.

We also recommend you to try out the new “Large Map” mode (4 times as larger as the original map) that comes with the HD version. These new settings together add even more strategic depth to the game.

[Desertfox]

For me the AI surrender to easily. Almost every game after playing a while the AI will start to surrender to each other. It would go from 5 aponents to 1 in a matter of minutes

[IronMana]

For me, my main issue with the AI is it always seems to end up me against the world. It's so hard to maybe build a relationship and try for an allied win or such. Had a game where I kept good relations in diplomacy, traded, wasn't weak (#2 in military, overall, #1 in other areas) and the other AI kingdom was just whipping the two other AI kingdoms. Then, suddenly, they all just jump me and it was nothing but that for the rest of the game. No cease-fire, etc.

Diplomacy is such a big part of the this game/franchise (played 7K and 7KAA), but then it just goes to crap after a while, not matter how strong the ties have been the whole time.

[Enlight Software]

Were you the most powerful kingdom in your game? The AI might decide that they have to act together against you now otherwise they wouldn't stand a chance later when your kingdom got even stronger.

But in the games I played, I didn't experience this issue of having all AI declaring war against me. It depends on the situation and varies from game to game. I also didn't get AI all surrendered to me in my games either.

If this persists in your game, please send your save game to us at the email address listed here: http://www.7k2hd.com/support-2/ And we will look into it.

[IronMana]

It just happened again. This time I was the lowest in military as I was focusing on economy and trying to take neutral towns and not just leave myself with like 0 peasants. Had a relationship with one kingdom, worked together a couple times, but then, once again, a rash of getting declared on from every other kingdom, including from Alliance to War in no time from my ally. Oddly enough, the only kingdom peaceful to me was a Frythan AI!

Unfortunately, I was just playing and forgot to save manually, so I can't send this one, but I did send the one that prompt my first post in the thread.

In fact, there seems to be a LOT of war declaring against me in my games, often just up and out of the blue. Sometimes, they don't even ever attack.

Just seems like diplomacy is...wierd. Had an AI accept a Friendly treaty from me...then immediately cancel it. It's really hard to get the AI to cooperate, even after offering aid or having been cooperative/agreeable with the kingdom and never hostile, etc.

[cerbralone]

Originally posted by Enlight Software:

Were you playing the latest version v2.07 already?

http://steamcommunity.com/games/7k2hd/announcements/detail/230017491942588523

I was.

[Desertfox]

The AI do not surrender to my they surrender to each other until they are are only one nation left.

[IronMana]

Originally posted by Desertfox:

The AI do not surrender to my they surrender to each other until they are are only one nation left.

It happened ONCE to me and it started a war. The one that surrendered to me had a fort attached to a Green AI's town and that caused the Green player to declare war on me lol.

[Ayback]

I agree with everybody, the diplomacy seems a bit wacky. I don't mind kingdoms declaring war on me if they have something to gain out of it. But I will have a kingdom declare war, lose 5 guys against a fort, Cease Fire, and immediately want to start trading again and be friends, only to declare war again two minutes later. Usually my maps end now with the Frythans eliminated quickly, and the remaining human kingdoms all at war with one another.

Usually I am taking attacks from all sides, but since they attack in long single-file lines it is not much trouble. If they came at me by forming up first and THEN attacking though, I'd be in trouble.

I don't remember if the diplomacy was like this back when I played on CD (I remember the single-file lines though, that's not new.)

[William Shakeshack]

This game is so unforgiving. It is truly a difficult game, it's quite challenging. They expand so ridiculously fast and early game defines pretty much if you stand a chance or not. At some point once your economy runs quite decently, you can try to hire tons of heroes and keep the war going but overall it's just extremely difficult to handle.

Most of the time I'm actually overwhelmed by all the things happening at the same time.

[Sentou Gakuen]

Yeah, for me low aggressiveness enemies are still pretty aggressive. Either they surrendering each other, and become 1 big (6 worth nations) nation that is so hard to beat. Or they all just declaring war on me at the same time.

Sometimes they are just mad. I played as frythan and captured a few towns, some AI then built camp on my captured town. Seeing that it's owned by me, they got angry and declared war on me. I squashed them out, then they asked for "Cease-Fire".

I misclicked, and choosed Reject instead. So I hurry open my diplomacy, and ask him for cease fire.

NOPE, he rejected my offer. I was like wtf? dude weren't you asked for it a few secs ago?

also, tips for newbie that often get overwhelmed by all things happening at the same time: Space bar (Pause) is your best friend!

[Ayback]

The AI diplomacy is annoying at the moment because the AI Kingdoms do not play to win. Rather, all they seem to care about is that the human player loses! Like Elliv said above, the AI just seems like it's mad sometimes, and it just doesn't know when to quit (unless it's surrendering to itself, in which case, it quits right away!)

I'm opening up another thread about the "Surrendering" thing, hoping it gets some attention. The devs seem to be serious about balancing the game, so I'm sure it'll be looked at soon.