Film grain? What idiot decided to add this?!

[Grim(CW)]

To boot, why does this keep mucking up games and making them look worse?
Wheres the off switch for this garbage?

Then to have sharpening added under it... yeah the pictures sharper, but now it looks like everything is badly pockmarked to hell at back with a massive dusting of grain over it...

[MJ1911]

No joke, I like it. Same as Chromatic. Can't be the only one cuz they keep putting them in games.

Then again, it took them 10 years to finally realize we didn't like QTE's so maybe half a decade more, Film Grain will be gone, but I doubt it.

It appears in cinema to give it a gritty, realistic look. Game developers going for the same effect here, in pursuit of photorealism. It does look cleaner and arguably better without, but then it loses the cinematic impact, becoming sterile and an obvious computer generation. It's very hard to film at night and have no grain. Would require really bright floodlights and/or great lenses.

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[Warlord]

Post processing effects are used by developers to hide poor game assets like textures and poor lighting.

[Grim(CW)]

Originally posted by M4RK:

It appears in cinema to give it a gritty, realistic look.

It appeared in cinema because camera film added it, it was more a fact of life before digital, than a decision. Now its just clung too in order to give movies a more gritty old movie look. Even then, most movies don't have it anymore seeing as its dated and can be distracting. Many restorations even remove this horrible effect.

In games that are first person its ridiculious, we're supposed to be looking through someone elses eyes here, not a couple of movie camera's from 1955. It really damages the overall appearance and immersion by making the whole game look like its being blurred on purpose.

and most games that have it, usually have an off switch for it, or add one (such as dying light, another FP game that had this horrible grain effect. They added a toggle for it on PC and then consoles too once people realized what it was and actively complained)

I'd rather have the artistic color filter of Human Revolution, at least the color filter is an artistic choice that can give the world some sense of its own. Film grain is just an ugly effect with no other purpose than to look like hell.

[LWRabbit]

Have you tried turning sharpening off? The game looks like Vaseline is smeared on the camera without it. Just WTF blurry without it.

[Grim(CW)]

I have, and it doesn't get that blurry, but the film grain does become entirely more noticible without it.

With the sharpening on though the entire game takes on an eery bright glow that makes faces look like they belong on horror film bad guys. Seems to sharpen a bit too much....

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+1

I really want to be able to turn film grain off, but even the games settings in Windows registry don't have an entry for that.

Originally posted by Grim(CW):

With the sharpening on though the entire game takes on an eery bright glow that makes faces look like they belong on horror film bad guys. Seems to sharpen a bit too much....

The sharpening in the game is overkill and just makes things look over saturated in a weird way.
I used sweetfx for sharpening and the result was much better. The downside is that the sweetfx sharpening kind of enhances the film grain, so I really wanna turn that off now.

[Grim(CW)]

badump for fun and in case we're not the only 2 that can play and have little else to complain of (though it does have horrid SLI support, and the framerates are horrible despite my dual GTX 980's, even on the recommended default "high" setting (minus chromatic, and that joke motion blur.. smoother transition? wtf? who are we kidding with that?!) The devs said a 970 should be able to do 1080p on that and hold 60 fps... I'm lucky to hold 50 with dips as low as 35! even dropped a few other settings to try working with it... nerp...)

[Xyos]

Originally posted by Grim(CW):

To boot, why does this keep mucking up games and making them look worse?
Wheres the off switch for this garbage?

Then to have sharpening added under it... yeah the pictures sharper, but now it looks like everything is badly pockmarked to hell at back with a massive dusting of grain over it...

[Grim(CW)]

quote... with no reply.... oookay

[dlux]

+1

I hate film grain.

[𝅵𝅵hollow]

I'm gonna bump this thread to hell until they give us an option to turn this bloody atrocity off.

[God, owner of the Universe]

Turn off tesselation and subsurface scattering and check if it has gotten better, then try which of these you can turn on again. This would at least help with the film grain in faces, but maybe it helps in general.

[Bobisz]

+1

its quite unbelievable that there isnt an option for this just as with any other wffect. Keeps me away from playing the game.

[Xyos]

It should always be an option to have on/off. It doesn't add detail, it reduces clarity and its annoying. Please give an option to turn off.

[Stealth1275]

Originally posted by Xyos:

It should always be an option to have on/off. It doesn't add detail, it reduces clarity and its annoying. Please give an option to turn off.

+1