Deus Ex: Mankind Divided™

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided™

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Deus Ex Original Remake!
Can we please get a Deus Ex remaster? It would be a dream come true. Redo dialogue where needed (most of Hong-Kong for example, but keep JC Denton and the good acting the same) and fix stuff like hacking but keep the ideas of the game the same such as unique body limb damage, augmentation canisters and etc. It makes too much sense not to do imo. We've got the Deus Ex Universe thing going on and a fully remade Deus Ex would be mind-blowing because in some ways, and I mean this in all respect to your incredible sequels, the original does have some things over the newer games. I do think the story is the best of the games, I easily think the music is the best of the games, the weapons, gameplay features, characters, levels and places etc. Hell, even hire Warren Spector to work on it again! He has said once before that he would love to see the game remade. It makes a lot of sense to me to remake it, maybe even with Invisible War remade in the same way you would be with the original and Human Revolution included in a package as it originally was because I would say most people playing the new games are missing out on a LOT and have never played the first two, far more importantly the first game.

It's a cult classic game and is extraordinary even in todays games in every way. I truly believe it would be a huge success and a very good idea to remake it if I really think about it. Please Eidos, please please consider it. Deus Ex Revision was absolutely not a remaster or remake, in fact I think it's worse than the original in almost every way, and is not the remake the game needs.

Also if you do a remake (please, again), hire Alexander Brandon again to do the music. The original still has the best soundtrack in any game ever in my opinion and the game wouldn't be the same without his music.

Hope you guys read this and will consider! Thanks guys!

P.S: To anyone reading this, please don't mention any spoilers from Mankind Divided as I have yet to even see gameplay of it and want to save it for when I play it myself. Thanks.
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J o n e x 2016 年 8 月 21 日 上午 5:44 
Personally I love Revision; and with the recent update it received, I'm more than happy with that version of the original DX1. Caustic Creative put a lot of work into making it, and it should be appreciated.

The trouble with making a fully fledged remake is that DX1 was a very PC friendly game. A remake would undoubtedly mean butchering the interface/UI for console players. Who knows what other things they would change that would take it further away from what made the original so great. Sometimes games don't need remakes, they should just be appreciated for how great they already are.
最後修改者:J o n e x; 2016 年 8 月 21 日 上午 5:45
Francisè von Spitroast 2016 年 8 月 21 日 上午 5:52 
引用自 J o n e x
Personally I love Revision; and with the recent update it received, I'm more than happy with that version of the original DX1. Caustic Creative put a lot of work into making it, and it should be appreciated.

The trouble with making a fully fledged remake is that DX1 was a very PC friendly game. A remake would undoubtedly mean butchering the interface/UI for console players. Who knows what other things they would change that would take it further away from what made the original so great. Sometimes games don't need remakes, they should just be appreciated for how great they already are.
Yes but the original game will always still be there, this is just for people who can't stand 'dated' gameplay and engines and for people who like me who would just love to see a modern version of it. It would be practically a whole new game anyway to most people.

I disagree with butchering the UI. Deus Ex on the PS2 was only dumbed down because of hardware limitations but as we have seen with Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, that is absolutely not necessary nowadays. HR and MD have great UI, friendly for both PC and consoles and is even better than the original games imho. There's not a lot that HR didn't have in terms of UI that the original did. The only reason things would be changed unnecessarily or done wrong is because of the developers and not because it's a remake, but after two fantastic games I certainly have faith in them.
Yes? 2016 年 8 月 21 日 上午 5:58 
I´d love to see a remastered/new version of my atf game. But it´d be almost a no win situation for the devs/publishers given how hard it would be to reach the same level excellence - and just imagine the screaming outrage from all the purists.
Francisè von Spitroast 2016 年 8 月 21 日 上午 6:07 
引用自 Yes?
I´d love to see a remastered/new version of my atf game. But it´d be almost a no win situation for the devs/publishers given how hard it would be to reach the same level excellence - and just imagine the screaming outrage from all the purists.
Sigh. I don't understand purists, especially the people who like Revision which to me ruins the whole charm and atmosphere of the game, meanwhile ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the AI and changing absolutely no gameplay whatsoever. Why ruin the fun for us?

I think a remaster should be their next big Deus Ex project, that way they'll have everything they need. I honestly truly believe it will sell as well as the rest.
J o n e x 2016 年 8 月 21 日 上午 6:11 
引用自 Mr. Mojo Risin'
引用自 J o n e x
Personally I love Revision; and with the recent update it received, I'm more than happy with that version of the original DX1. Caustic Creative put a lot of work into making it, and it should be appreciated.

The trouble with making a fully fledged remake is that DX1 was a very PC friendly game. A remake would undoubtedly mean butchering the interface/UI for console players. Who knows what other things they would change that would take it further away from what made the original so great. Sometimes games don't need remakes, they should just be appreciated for how great they already are.
Yes but the original game will always still be there, this is just for people who can't stand 'dated' gameplay and engines and for people who like me who would just love to see a modern version of it. It would be practically a whole new game anyway to most people.

I disagree with butchering the UI. Deus Ex on the PS2 was only dumbed down because of hardware limitations but as we have seen with Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, that is absolutely not necessary nowadays. HR and MD have great UI, friendly for both PC and consoles and is even better than the original games imho. There's not a lot that HR didn't have in terms of UI that the original did. The only reason things would be changed unnecessarily or done wrong is because of the developers and not because it's a remake, but after two fantastic games I certainly have faith in them.

Aside from the ending, the UI in Human Revolution was my biggest problem with the game. It was quite obviously designed with consoles in mind. The icons were massive and interfacing with in game computers felt cheap and dumbed down from the first game. Granted, this was a reboot of the series, but I was hoping for a little bit more appreciation for the original game and the PC players who were looking forward to playing HR. A fairly minor issue, but still something that took away from my experience.
Francisè von Spitroast 2016 年 8 月 21 日 上午 6:13 
引用自 J o n e x
引用自 Mr. Mojo Risin'
Yes but the original game will always still be there, this is just for people who can't stand 'dated' gameplay and engines and for people who like me who would just love to see a modern version of it. It would be practically a whole new game anyway to most people.

I disagree with butchering the UI. Deus Ex on the PS2 was only dumbed down because of hardware limitations but as we have seen with Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, that is absolutely not necessary nowadays. HR and MD have great UI, friendly for both PC and consoles and is even better than the original games imho. There's not a lot that HR didn't have in terms of UI that the original did. The only reason things would be changed unnecessarily or done wrong is because of the developers and not because it's a remake, but after two fantastic games I certainly have faith in them.

Aside from the ending, the UI in Human Revolution was my biggest problem with the game. It was quite obviously designed with consoles in mind. The icons were massive and interfacing with in game computers felt cheap and dumbed down from the first game. Granted, this was a reboot of the series, but I was hoping for a little bit more appreciation for the original game and the PC players who were looking forward to playing HR. A fairly minor issue, but still something that took away from my experience.
Fair complaint, and I can see what you mean, but I still thought it was pretty good. If there's one thing we can agree on though are the endings. Yeah, they sucked big time.
, 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 2:31 
Totally agree. I hate the small things they added to the new series (Deus Ex: HR & MD).
Things such as:
Cover system
Map radar
Lethal/non-lethal takedown cutscenes
Removal of melee weapons
Praxis kits
Health bar
Ammo in inventory

First off, cover system makes the game wayyyyy too easy, suspense is no longer there. In the original and DX:IW, you simply waited and listened for footsteps before entering a room. Adding the cover system removes the suspense because you can easily see who/what is in the room. Same goes for the map radar, it ruins the suspense and marks where enemies are in the area. I miss walking into a room by accident and getting into gunfights..or awkwardly running for deer life.
Takedown cutscenes....where do I start. This is completely unnecessary and adding more work on their end making such animations. Solution? Give us melee weapons so we can take them out in first person and avoid unnecessary takedown cutscenes.
Removal of melee weapons...like...wtf, why? Dragon tooth sword was OP. I miss sneaking up behind people and shocking them with the stun prod...bring this back!
Praxis kits...it's smart of them to let us augment on the go. But I miss finding augmentation canisters and having to find a medbot in order to install the augmentations I wanted. It added more excitement, and the feeling when you finally Install it after breaking out of that crazy mission was rewarding.
Health bar, why? They've removed the body sections health. It would be awesome to have that health system again, made more sense and more realistic, and let's you heal what's necessary. Overall, I liked that layout and concept over a single health bar.
Ammo in inventory....lord where do I start? Wtf are they thinking? The original never took ammo in the inventory, it was simply stored w/ the gun and only the weapon itself used slots. By storing ammo in the inventory, this limits what we want.
最後修改者:,; 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 2:48
BushwalkerSP 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:00 
All the above comments are valid and can easily be fixed by clever settings and difficulty levels. I understand that developers are trying to make a game that has a broader appeal and not trying to appeal to hardcore gamers only. Also, the game must have a different look and feel from other games in order for people to like it. It makes business sense after all.
tatankasamoyed 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:27 
Gotta agree with what OCTOBRSVRYOWN said above. Well stated! I enjoyed the reboot enough to play it on PC, PS3, and 360, but it could have been so much better. I think they tried to give it their own take while maintaining the spirit of the original. I really hated the 3rd person shifts. OCTOBRSVRYOWN is right that it ruined the suspense and dumbed it down unnecessarily.

As far a remake of the original, I like the Revision they have on Steam. I played earlier "versions" of it. It's very convenient having it on Steam. I doubt that they will ever remaster it. Unlike the current remastering trend of straight port or minor fixes, Deus Ex would require much more in the way of resources and time. A Deus Ex remaster would essentially require remaking the game over again. Anyway that's not to say that it wouldn't be cool though.
最後修改者:tatankasamoyed; 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:28
Benjin 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:32 
Totally agree with a remake of the original Deus Ex - it'd need to keep a few features that made it what it was though, such as the damage system. However, I really don't see what the fuss is about related to HR's stealth / cover system, it really isn't that bad - to say that there's "no suspence" is totally subjective to how the player experiences the game. I could say that I found the cover system in HR had some suspence due to the fact that an enemy could walk some distance past where I'm hiding behind a piece of cover and spot me, or due to the increase in the tempo / bass of the music as an enemy slowly gets closer in proximity to you (not that I'd say that myself, though - but I don't think HR's stealth system was that bad). Besides, Deus Ex's stealth mechanics are really outdated now any way, they'd need to be changed in some way if the game were to be remade - current gen gamers wouldn't stand a stealth system like that. I would agree with a rethinking of the current melee takedown system as well - I really hoped that Mankind Divided would change it, but apparently they haven't which is a big shame I think. However, it also can't be like the original's as, yet again, current gen players would find it a total annoyance.

If they had a chance to remake it, perhaps they could also flesh out the areas that the original didn't manage to fully implement? There was meant to be a whole "pick your side" part in the story where you could either choose to remain or leave UNATCO, but they forced you to leave instead. Even though you could remain with UNATCO, you still had to go to the same places, and you also had the ability join the rebels multiple times later down the road if you encounter major characters, or your brother, who try to convince you again to join their side.
最後修改者:Benjin; 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:44
High Elf of Paragon 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:39 
Just play the game with the New Vision mod or Revision if you don't mind the changes. Graphics don't make the game, and the game looks plenty fine with the mods I mentioned. This whole "let's remaster every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game that ever released, including ones that literally released like two ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago" non-sense is annoying as hell. They do it on consoles, because consoles stopped having backwards compatibility.
最後修改者:High Elf of Paragon; 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:40
High Elf of Paragon 2016 年 8 月 21 日 下午 3:41 
引用自 Stonebriar
引用自 High Elf of Paragon
Just play the game with the New Vision mod or Revision if you don't mind the changes. This whole "let's remaster every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game that every released, including ones that literally released like two ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago" non-sense is annoying as hell. They do it on consoles, because consoles stopped having backwards compatibility.
Shut up the game wont run on your computer anyway


What won't run on my computer? The original Deus Ex? Runs fine. i54690k/970...so, yeah.
Francisè von Spitroast 2016 年 8 月 22 日 上午 2:08 
引用自 OCTOBRSVRYOWN
Totally agree. I hate the small things they added to the new series (Deus Ex: HR & MD).
Things such as:
Cover system
Map radar
Lethal/non-lethal takedown cutscenes
Removal of melee weapons
Praxis kits
Health bar
Ammo in inventory
I didn't actually mind the HR cover system as it made the game unique for the genre it's in, but this one pisses me off. It's very similar to Splinter Cell Conviction's cover system which I agree, makes it way too easy and jsut ♥♥♥♥♥ the whole thing up. My only issue with HR's cover system was that it was almost mandatory because the first person shooting was so crap, but that's not really the cover systems fault and more just bad mechanics.

引用自 tatankasamoyed
Gotta agree with what OCTOBRSVRYOWN said above. Well stated! I enjoyed the reboot enough to play it on PC, PS3, and 360, but it could have been so much better. I think they tried to give it their own take while maintaining the spirit of the original. I really hated the 3rd person shifts. OCTOBRSVRYOWN is right that it ruined the suspense and dumbed it down unnecessarily.

As far a remake of the original, I like the Revision they have on Steam. I played earlier "versions" of it. It's very convenient having it on Steam. I doubt that they will ever remaster it. Unlike the current remastering trend of straight port or minor fixes, Deus Ex would require much more in the way of resources and time. A Deus Ex remaster would essentially require remaking the game over again. Anyway that's not to say that it wouldn't be cool though.
Yeah, that's the ideal outcome of the way they'd do it, not like they really have a choice anyway.

引用自 Benjin
Totally agree with a remake of the original Deus Ex - it'd need to keep a few features that made it what it was though, such as the damage system. However, I really don't see what the fuss is about related to HR's stealth / cover system, it really isn't that bad - to say that there's "no suspence" is totally subjective to how the player experiences the game. I could say that I found the cover system in HR had some suspence due to the fact that an enemy could walk some distance past where I'm hiding behind a piece of cover and spot me, or due to the increase in the tempo / bass of the music as an enemy slowly gets closer in proximity to you (not that I'd say that myself, though - but I don't think HR's stealth system was that bad). Besides, Deus Ex's stealth mechanics are really outdated now any way, they'd need to be changed in some way if the game were to be remade - current gen gamers wouldn't stand a stealth system like that. I would agree with a rethinking of the current melee takedown system as well - I really hoped that Mankind Divided would change it, but apparently they haven't which is a big shame I think. However, it also can't be like the original's as, yet again, current gen players would find it a total annoyance.
I wouldn't want the new games' cover system in the remake, but I liked it in HR. I hate the takedown nonsense, well actually hate is too strong, I'm not a big fan. It does however work as a one time change in the series to keep that game unique, but I wouldn't want it to stay through the series. To me melee weapons are awesome. People play Skyrim with its horrible melee combat, and it worked in Dishonored, so I think it'd be fine if they could do it now. I mean, I know Skyrim isn't even remotely similar, but still. Stealth mechanics are pretty dated, but I don't think it'd need to actually be changed that much for it to be good enough for todays standards. Just some AI tweaks mostly, which will obviously be completely different anyway on a new engine.

引用自 High Elf of Paragon
Just play the game with the New Vision mod or Revision if you don't mind the changes. Graphics don't make the game, and the game looks plenty fine with the mods I mentioned. This whole "let's remaster every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game that ever released, including ones that literally released like two ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago" non-sense is annoying as hell. They do it on consoles, because consoles stopped having backwards compatibility.
You've completely misunderstood everything, and I doubt you read the whole op. I do play the game with New Vision and it's still the best game of all time, but like I said in the op a lot of people cannot stand old games, and that's not because of the graphics, but because of outdated gameplay and the engine. It looks good enough with New Vision but the environment is still dated, not that any of that matters with outdated gameplay. I hate the idea of remastering lots of games, ESPECIALLY when they're relatively new, but this isn't just any game, it's a cult classic that is SIXTEEN years old and people are most certainly missing out if they can't play it! If a game's that old, it's going to be dated, unlike most other games being remastered. Like I said, the original game is still there and the horrible Revision bullcrap too if you like that. This just means old players will practially be getting a new game but with everything that made the original so mind-blowingly good, and new players will get to experience something they're missing out on to also tie in with HR and MD.

引用自 High Elf of Paragon
引用自 Stonebriar
Shut up the game wont run on your computer anyway


What won't run on my computer? The original Deus Ex? Runs fine. i54690k/970...so, yeah.
Revision is incredibly unoptimized because the engine was never meant for that much detail and, well, map clutter. Doesn't matter if you've got a really good computer, the engine can't handle it so it will lag. Liberty Island runs at 30fps for me and that's not because of my system.
master_errant 2016 年 9 月 8 日 下午 4:38 
DX 1 was a vastly better game even allowing for primitive Gfx and controls. 2 not so much.
It would be interesting to see the stoy continue to it completion even though I know I'll have to pretend it a different goame or be depressed,,,lol
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