What counts as a kill?

[Metrinui]

Im doing a pacifist run through and I want to know what counts as a kill and what doesn't. I'm talking about indirectly mostly. Such as activating a breaker switch with enemies over top of it and them dying. Is this a kill and I won't get the achievement? Things like this.

[Metrinui]

Publicado originalmente por Skull64:

Publicado originalmente por Navjot:

I didn't kill ♥♥♥♥ while doing the Arc mission but still the leader claims I massacred his mates wtf ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Its a glitch when i went thorugh the area i shot some guys with my slient pistol and knocked some guys out and the guy was like hey thanks for not killing my people.

Wait, so I'll probably have the issue where he says i massacered his people even though I haven't killed a single soul? What if I quick save before I talk to him? Can I keep reloading till I get the thank you from him?

[Donaldo Trumpado]

Usually a jury decides.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Someone may have died by accident. When I was playing around a bit, I used a concussion grenade followed by a stun gun shot and it killed the police officer. Both are non-lethal attacks, so someone may have died and you may have missed it, like maybe a stungun to the face or something.

[Skull]

Publicado originalmente por Metrinui:

Publicado originalmente por Skull64:

Its a glitch when i went thorugh the area i shot some guys with my slient pistol and knocked some guys out and the guy was like hey thanks for not killing my people.

Wait, so I'll probably have the issue where he says i massacered his people even though I haven't killed a single soul? What if I quick save before I talk to him? Can I keep reloading till I get the thank you from him?

Not sure it seems random if he thanks your or not im not sure if saveing and reloading would fix it

[Metrinui]

Publicado originalmente por Skull64:

Publicado originalmente por Metrinui:

Wait, so I'll probably have the issue where he says i massacered his people even though I haven't killed a single soul? What if I quick save before I talk to him? Can I keep reloading till I get the thank you from him?

Not sure it seems random if he thanks your or not im not sure if saveing and reloading would fix it

Secondly, Does Rucker's death count as a kill? Can I save him? Or will he always die but it won't count as a kill on my part?

[Skull]

Publicado originalmente por Metrinui:

Publicado originalmente por Skull64:

Not sure it seems random if he thanks your or not im not sure if saveing and reloading would fix it

Secondly, Does Rucker's death count as a kill? Can I save him? Or will he always die but it won't count as a kill on my part?

Doesnt count as a kill and its something you cant change it always happens.

[Firenyth]

well ♥♥♥♥, was going for pacifist in the into I killed people but reloaded to do it all with tranq rifle then latter in the game I had some fun and put my hacking to use and turned friendly fire on some turrets and turned on a breaker. rip achievement u guess

[Firenyth]

I'm still going to go passive I'll hope anyway

[Firenyth]

Publicado originalmente por Metrinui:

Im doing a pacifist run through and I want to know what counts as a kill and what doesn't. I'm talking about indirectly mostly. Such as activating a breaker switch with enemies over top of it and them dying. Is this a kill and I won't get the achievement? Things like this.

just finished the game and got passifict, i turned robots and turrets to friendly fire, turned on a breaker and lured someone into it and got an accidental "kill" after knocking out 2 gurads and one glitching into the floor and showing he was dead. so it seems as long as you dont hold q to kill some one or shoot them to death you should be fine

[Angelus033]

Publicado originalmente por Firenyth:

Publicado originalmente por Metrinui:

Im doing a pacifist run through and I want to know what counts as a kill and what doesn't. I'm talking about indirectly mostly. Such as activating a breaker switch with enemies over top of it and them dying. Is this a kill and I won't get the achievement? Things like this.

just finished the game and got passifict, i turned robots and turrets to friendly fire, turned on a breaker and lured someone into it and got an accidental "kill" after knocking out 2 gurads and one glitching into the floor and showing he was dead. so it seems as long as you dont hold q to kill some one or shoot them to death you should be fine

Don't forget if you drag someone to death, it counts as you killed them

Also, in DE:HR, any switch or trap you could activate was counting as a kill from you

[Firenyth]

Publicado originalmente por AngHell:

Publicado originalmente por Firenyth:

just finished the game and got passifict, i turned robots and turrets to friendly fire, turned on a breaker and lured someone into it and got an accidental "kill" after knocking out 2 gurads and one glitching into the floor and showing he was dead. so it seems as long as you dont hold q to kill some one or shoot them to death you should be fine

Don't forget if you drag someone to death, it counts as you killed them

Also, in DE:HR, any switch or trap you could activate was counting as a kill from you

well i turned on a breaker to kill someone, and turned security against people still got the achivement, only thing i didnt do was drag someone off a ledge or something

[Angelus033]

Publicado originalmente por Firenyth:

Publicado originalmente por AngHell:

Don't forget if you drag someone to death, it counts as you killed them

Also, in DE:HR, any switch or trap you could activate was counting as a kill from you

well i turned on a breaker to kill someone, and turned security against people still got the achivement, only thing i didnt do was drag someone off a ledge or something

Thank you for the information then
I think dragging him to death will count as a kill, since you directly act on the ennemy (not via a button or turret)

[Iago [2098]]

Having played DE: HR i definitely got the hang of what was a kill and what wasn't...in DE:MD i'm a bit confused about something when i'm in Golem City. If i drop behind where Louis Gallio or whatever is, him and his bodyguards will aggro me but can't reach me. The cops then come and blow them away while I just stand there. I'm guessing that would not count as a kill as the npc did it? Really would like to know so Otar's favour is "completed" ;)

[Firenyth]

Publicado originalmente por Iago 2098:

Having played DE: HR i definitely got the hang of what was a kill and what wasn't...in DE:MD i'm a bit confused about something when i'm in Golem City. If i drop behind where Louis Gallio or whatever is, him and his bodyguards will aggro me but can't reach me. The cops then come and blow them away while I just stand there. I'm guessing that would not count as a kill as the npc did it? Really would like to know so Otar's favour is "completed" ;)

mankind divided is alot less strict on the rules of kill or not kill, as long as you dont shot bullets at someone from a gun you are carrying or break/stab someones neak you should be fine, i got the achivement from my playthrough and i hacked turrets to friendly fire and activated beakers to shock people to death and in human revolution those would have counted a kill by me but in mankind divided they did not

[Iago [2098]]

excellent...now here's hoping i didn't accidently drag someone to death...because man i've stuffed a lot of people in ventilation shafts. :D