Foxiest of the Hounds - is it bugged

[NuclearSausage2000]

in my second run i thought i triggered zero alarms. didn't get the chievement so i guess i did something wrong.
on my third run i made 100% sure i triggered ZERO alarms, and the one single time i did, i reloaded my last quick save and went on.
and still no achievement!

what gives?!?!??!


update:

İlk olarak Zweis†ein ( ಠ_ಠ) tarafından gönderildi:

5th run or 6th speedrun. i ready don't remember any more. just kept doing speed runs seeif i can be absolutelly flawless. and i mean, nothing more than 2 or 3 suspicious take downs.
AND I FINALLY GOT IT.
seriously guys.
I have absolutelly no idea what i did different. I have no idea why i got the achievement now.

all i did was disassembling everything i find and turn it into biocells and be cloacked all the time. left nothing to chance.
made it through with something like 50 biocless and 20 hacking devices left.

so yeah.. i finally did it! 100% completion!!!!

[Vassago Rain]

Did you report to Miller while at GARM?

[NuclearSausage2000]

no, i made sure to call Vega!
also made sure all the enemies in the CSO London mission were silently taken care of.


due to my 'collect all ebooks' hunt i saved the politicians first, then went to Marchenko and used the kill switch on him.
does using the kill switch on Marchenko cancel the trophy?

[76561198041347291]

Yes. You'll have to fight him, use your stun rifle/gun, an emp grenade and take him down.

[NuclearSausage2000]

İlk olarak Peter Brev tarafından gönderildi:

Yes. You'll have to fight him, use your stun rifle/gun, an emp grenade and take him down.

ooh ok im trying this!! thanks for teh tip i hope it works!

[76561198041347291]

İlk olarak Zweis†ein ( ಠ_ಠ) tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Peter Brev tarafından gönderildi:

Yes. You'll have to fight him, use your stun rifle/gun, an emp grenade and take him down.

ooh ok im trying this!! thanks for teh tip i hope it works!

I'm playing the game on 'I never asked for this' difficulty, trying to get the achievement for not triggering any alarms, not killing anyone and for playing on the hardest difficulty.

[NuclearSausage2000]

credits are taking forever.. i didn't use the killswitch. went full stealth. disarmed everything. dissabled drones and cams. then used an emp on him and knocked him out without having the chance to get back to me.

i hope this did the trick

[NuclearSausage2000]

İlk olarak Peter Brev tarafından gönderildi:

Yes. You'll have to fight him, use your stun rifle/gun, an emp grenade and take him down.

nope. nothing. this is annoying AF now.

[Selfish Lee Everett]

A few things. In the Marchenko fight, he has a bunch of annoying bots that might trigger an alarm if they detect you. Not sure if car alarms count but on my playthrough where I jumped on cars i didnt get it. Also a few BS moments like the sewers with the sentries hunting you and killing civvies. Probably better to spend a day or two just speed running through the game again just for this achievement.

[NuclearSausage2000]

İlk olarak Selfish Lee Everett tarafından gönderildi:

A few things. In the Marchenko fight, he has a bunch of annoying bots that might trigger an alarm if they detect you. Not sure if car alarms count but on my playthrough where I jumped on cars i didnt get it. Also a few BS moments like the sewers with the sentries hunting you and killing civvies. Probably better to spend a day or two just speed running through the game again just for this achievement.

oh boy.....

[NuclearSausage2000]

ok this is BS.
i managed to do the hadrest mode run. finished it with zero alarms.
got the 'i never asked for this' achievement but not the "Foxiest of the Hounds"

WTF IS HAPPENING?!

i made 100% sure i was careful as hell.
triggered zero alarms.
knocked out only the necessary enemies that blocked my path (i knew that killing them would always have a chance for me to trigger an alarm at random moments).
i was 99% of the time cloacked, disassembled everything i would come up to and crafted bioshells like crazy.

i was not seen at the helicopter at the very first Dubai mission
i made sure i called Vega in GARM
i never failed a hack (and i saved before every single step)
the only time i triggered an alarm was during a mission, when it happened i reloaded my last save and completelly succeeded doing it again without an alarm going off.
i knocked out all guards (11/11) during CSO
i didnt use the killswitch on Marchenko
i knocked out Marchenko silently without him noticing me after disabling all bots, the turret and any lasers blocking my way
i made sure to face Marchenko first and save the politicians afterwards


THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY SERIOUSLY

please someone tell me what have i been missing here, whats going on

[Vassago Rain]

If the 'alarm' system works the same as it did in DX and DX: HR, then drawing aggro from robots, turrets, and cameras count as setting off an alarm.

Not sure what else it could be.

[NuclearSausage2000]

only interaction with any of them i had was cams going 'suspicious' when i disarmed lasers that were in front of them (from distance)

i seriously don't know what else to do. i wanted to get a 100% completion on this game so badly :(

[lynx233reg]

My short notes on stealth system, hope it helps:

Ghost NOT fails:

If ANY target goes HOSTILE, but you took it down MELEE before it could broadcast to others.
BUT if you took it down with WEAPON, you lose your ghost achievement.

Smooth operator NOT fails:

When you take down enemy in camera field of view. The camera lens going red,
but no alarm and this amusingly DOES NOT ruin smooth operator achiement. Likely to ruin ghost achievement, though.

Getting turrets and cameras suspicious by briefly appearing in their field of view.

Camera or turret getting suspicious when seeing a laser disabled,
even when it happens right in their field of view.

Failing remote hack of turrets and cameras.



Something is really bugged somewhere. Message like "Not the foxiest of hounds" would really be nice.

[Vassago Rain]

I can try looking into this next week. Will simply do a run of my own. In the director's cut version of HR, there's a bug where if you have played the game before, and not deleted your relevant savefiles, then foxiest is unattainable for some bizarre reason.

Perhaps it's the same problem?

[NuclearSausage2000]

Thanks for looking this up. I think i might do another NG+ speedrun and record it and put it on youtube. In case anyone can help me figure this out.