Deus Ex: Mankind Divided™

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided™

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Mathalis Oct 22, 2016 @ 9:25am
buggy nightmare
I really wanted to like this game. I loved the original games in the 90s and human revolution has its flaws, but was very fun with a great story. This game feels...bland. The graphics are wierd, the world feels boring, and just do not seem to care about where I am or why im here. Everything I built a relationship with from the first game is irrelevant in the beggining. On top of that, this buggy night mare just crashes constantly. I cannot play on max settings and I have a $5k top of the line pc from origin. I feel like this company went from hero to zero with this release. I hope they fix it. Maybe I will try again in a few months.

Note: I am not trying to troll. I just wanted to express my disappointment with this game so far.
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cyberwiz97 Oct 22, 2016 @ 10:33am 
Yeah. I think I know what you mean. At first, I was like, yeah, yeah, let's get on with it. Although, lately I'm finding myself drawn deeper into the very complex story line, and the more I learn, the more interesting it's becoming. I feel it's ... watch the movie or read the book. The book is often more engrossing than the movie, and I'm beginning to enjoy how deep the story goes. Whether it's "good" or not, by writing standards is beyond my expertise to call. For me, it's gettin' better.

As for bugs ... yeah ... I've had a few frustrating freezes too. Lately, during attempts at the "I never asked for this" achievement. The last time, I was all the way to the GARM facility when it froze. I lost all that game time. Extremely frustrating!. - There. That's my little rant.

It may be months before they fix it all, even years. Hope things are better for ya, next time you try.
El Fuerte Oct 22, 2016 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I loved the original games in the 90s

Stop it please. The first game was not released in the 90s.
Last edited by El Fuerte; Oct 22, 2016 @ 11:03am
Vassago Rain Oct 22, 2016 @ 1:12pm 
But if you liked the 'originals back in the 90s' then this game is exactly what you wanted. Open world, free form exploration. All about the universe, and not about any particular character.
joridiculous Oct 22, 2016 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I loved the original games in the 90s

Stop it please. The first game was not released in the 90s.
2000 .. close enough :P
Vassago Rain Oct 22, 2016 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by joridiculous:
Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

Stop it please. The first game was not released in the 90s.
2000 .. close enough :P

Not really.
joridiculous Oct 22, 2016 @ 4:40pm 
Originally posted by Vassago Rain:
Originally posted by joridiculous:
2000 .. close enough :P

Not really.
poopy pants
MaximumBlade Oct 22, 2016 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I really wanted to like this game. I loved the original games in the 90s and human revolution has its flaws, but was very fun with a great story. This game feels...bland. The graphics are wierd, the world feels boring, and just do not seem to care about where I am or why im here. Everything I built a relationship with from the first game is irrelevant in the beggining. On top of that, this buggy night mare just crashes constantly. I cannot play on max settings and I have a $5k top of the line pc from origin. I feel like this company went from hero to zero with this release. I hope they fix it. Maybe I will try again in a few months.

Note: I am not trying to troll. I just wanted to express my disappointment with this game so far.
Why would you buy a PC from Origin? There are plenty of companies that custom build PCs for you at a very competitive price. You say it is top of the range, so why not list the specs?
Mathalis Oct 22, 2016 @ 5:47pm 




Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I loved the original games in the 90s

Stop it please. The first game was not released in the 90s.

Give me a break. It has been a long, long time. I was guessing. The original was better because of character progression and it was a one of a kind experience. You have to do better to impress gamers these days than make the characters look better.



Originally posted by No one:
Sounds like someone got ripped off.


Originally posted by MaximumBlade:
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I really wanted to like this game. I loved the original games in the 90s and human revolution has its flaws, but was very fun with a great story. This game feels...bland. The graphics are wierd, the world feels boring, and just do not seem to care about where I am or why im here. Everything I built a relationship with from the first game is irrelevant in the beggining. On top of that, this buggy night mare just crashes constantly. I cannot play on max settings and I have a $5k top of the line pc from origin. I feel like this company went from hero to zero with this release. I hope they fix it. Maybe I will try again in a few months.

Note: I am not trying to troll. I just wanted to express my disappointment with this game so far.
Why would you buy a PC from Origin? There are plenty of companies that custom build PCs for you at a very competitive price. You say it is top of the range, so why not list the specs?

I'm not sure why people challenge this. It seems childish to call someones pc out because they do not enjoy the game as much as they wanted to, but you are entitled to your oppinions. My hardware is listed below. I am sure the next thing you will say is you want a detailed direct x diagnostic and signed drivers with screen shots cause you dont believe me.

My pc specs are:
Intel Core i7 5930k CPU over clocked to 4 ghz with water cooling
16 gigs of 2866 mhz ram
12 gig NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Z (over clocked and water cooled)
Sound blaster z
ACPI X64 based pc
4 terabyte hard drive for storage



Originally posted by Vassago Rain:
But if you liked the 'originals back in the 90s' then this game is exactly what you wanted. Open world, free form exploration. All about the universe, and not about any particular character.

I appreciate your oppinion. I really, REALLY enjoied the first one. I cannot put my finger on what I dont like about this one other than I just cant seem to get into it. I do have some crashes that I shouldnt, but that will work itself out as updates progress. That is why I will give it another try in a few months. Maybe Witcher 3 just rose my expectations of what an rpg is capable of! lol. Good luck.

Originally posted by joridiculous:
Originally posted by ⚕ RED ⚕:

Stop it please. The first game was not released in the 90s.
2000 .. close enough :P

I appreciate the defense from the trolls mate. I feel like people are offended easily.

me: I really dont like this game as much as I wanted to...

them: YOUR COMPUTER SUCKS! YOUR STUPID!

It makes no sense at all lol.

Originally posted by cyberwiz97:
Yeah. I think I know what you mean. At first, I was like, yeah, yeah, let's get on with it. Although, lately I'm finding myself drawn deeper into the very complex story line, and the more I learn, the more interesting it's becoming. I feel it's ... watch the movie or read the book. The book is often more engrossing than the movie, and I'm beginning to enjoy how deep the story goes. Whether it's "good" or not, by writing standards is beyond my expertise to call. For me, it's gettin' better.

As for bugs ... yeah ... I've had a few frustrating freezes too. Lately, during attempts at the "I never asked for this" achievement. The last time, I was all the way to the GARM facility when it froze. I lost all that game time. Extremely frustrating!. - There. That's my little rant.

It may be months before they fix it all, even years. Hope things are better for ya, next time you try.


This is great news. I will want for the next update, follow the geforce recommended specs at ultra settings, and give it another shot. Maybe it just takes a while to get into this story verses human revolution. Thanks for the encouragement.
Vassago Rain Oct 22, 2016 @ 5:53pm 
But there is no character progression in the original, and it wasn't a one of a kind experience, but you're excused for believing so because of the next point.

The reason you like the first one so much is because you played it when you were a baby.

Truth is, there were a lot of other FPS/RPG hybrid titles at the time, like the thief games, the system shock games, strife, and etc.
Mathalis Oct 22, 2016 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Vassago Rain:
But there is no character progression in the original, and it wasn't a one of a kind experience, but you're excused for believing so because of the next point.

The reason you like the first one so much is because you played it when you were a baby.

Truth is, there were a lot of other FPS/RPG hybrid titles at the time, like the thief games, the system shock games, strife, and etc.

Maybe you're right. I never liked the theif games though, and I distinctly remember trying to create optimal builds. The scifi/rpg thing was really new to me at the time. I am more of a fantasy, morrowind kind of a player versus any fps. I generally dont like fps, but for some reason i loved desu ex and the fallout series. Who knows, what I do know is I do not enjoy this one as much. In the year 2000 i was...16 years old. That could play a major factor to.
MaximumBlade Oct 22, 2016 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I'm not sure why people challenge this.
Just curious as to why such an expensive PC would have trouble running this game. In my experience, the big branded 'ready made' PCs always end up costing more than if you custom built it yourself or through a smaller professional builder.
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
It seems childish to call someones pc out because they do not enjoy the game as much as they wanted to
If you experience problems playing the game, then that will definitely take away from your overall enjoyment. In fact, the frustration could make you hate the game, especially if you have spent so much money to avoid such problems.
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
12 gig NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Z
There's your problem, a dual GPU card. This game has problems with dual GPU setups.
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I cannot put my finger on what I dont like about this one other than I just cant seem to get into it.
The constant crashing perhaps? Anyway, hopefully they will fix the issues you are having with this game in the near future with a patch and then you might feel differently.
Because take it from me, this is a fantastic game. But I was lucky enough to experience hardly any immersion breaking problems.
Jarilo Oct 22, 2016 @ 6:35pm 
You're over exegerating OP. I liked the story and music in HR more too but MD is a great game.

Originally posted by joridiculous:
Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

Not really.
poopy pants

Well he's right lol. 2000 is not the 90s anymore :P
Jarilo Oct 22, 2016 @ 6:36pm 
Originally posted by Vassago Rain:

The reason you like the first one so much is because you played it when you were a baby.

Nostalgia is a powerful beast.
Mathalis Oct 22, 2016 @ 10:34pm 
Originally posted by MaximumBlade:
Originally posted by joshuadelliott:
I'm not sure why people challenge this.
Just curious as to why such an expensive PC would have trouble running this game. In my experience, the big branded 'ready made' PCs always end up costing more than if you custom built it yourself or through a smaller professional builder.

This is the first pc I didnt build. It is no longer cost effective to purchase the top of the line gear. When the titan z came out it sold on new egg for $3k. Origin put one in my machine for $1k. I couldnt compete with that. On top of that they sell you not only a 3 year 100% warranty, but a 3 year upgrade service as well. So when someone finally tops my hardware, i can just upgrade it. For the absolute best, mass purchasing by companies tends to create discounts you just cant compete with when you're buying one or two things.
Originally posted by Vassago Rain:
But there is no character progression in the original, and it wasn't a one of a kind experience, but you're excused for believing so because of the next point.

WUT! DX:MD has a bit of progression via the surprise mystery augs (which happen basically immediately, so it's not actual "progression"; the backstory of this unfolds a little, but you're left hanging - one of the points where the new and surprise episodic format hurts a lot), plus there's something odd to discover in some locked-away place. Overall, you're just veteran Jensen who's doing his routine.

DX:HR has some progression via its dynamic introduction of the augmented character and due to the discovery of why Nu-Poz isn't needed and the things tied to this, but otherwise it's as stagnant as DX:MD.

Deus Ex (2000, when I was almost 30), however, had significant character progression.

While you're experiencing your first missions after leaving the academy, you're lead to a twist that will have you end up intentionally working for the enemy (clearly something tied to your personal convictions, to who you want to be), which is drawn out and multi-faceted, e.g. there's the Lebedev decision, you see your brother kill-switched (which later allows you to choose whether or not to kill tons of cops in the hotel fight), and you finally experience your turn of 180° in the generator warehouse. Still part of this aspect of your character progression (So you could say "This is just one thing." - but it's really extremely elaborate.): You get captured and have to reacquire your gear, which I personally always find to be a strong experience.

So, you work for the NSF/Tong now. Briefly, you work for the Triads, then you start working a lot for Illuminati characters because it's in the interest of the NSF/Tong. Later, the AIs are introduced, and you enter the final stage where you have to make up your mind between four factions: Tong, Everett, Page, Helios. That's a lot of experience focused on who JC Denton wants to be, how he wants to shape the world etc.

All this while you're building your actual skills, not just installing ability V2 via augs, though it can be argued that the new games just consolidate (What a funny term in this context.) this into augs. So, you can dismiss this entire paragraph if you want. Still, you're told that what happens in DX is that you, the rookie, get better at several individual classes of weapon using, lock-picking, electronics, medicine, computer, swimming, and there's environmental training.

The character progression in Deus Ex (2000) is ridiculously stronger than in DX:HR/DX:MD.
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