Virtual Pool 4
AceOfSpades May 12, 2015 @ 9:25am
Some questions about the game......
I am thinking about buying this game but have a few questions regarding it that I would like to know before my purchase.

Questions for DEVS: I understand that the game is pay to play MP after the first year which is freely included in the purchase price. I also see that there is a whole in game currency which a person can buy pool cues ect.. I also read a statement by a dev that they would like to drop the yearly mp charge if the game sells well enough. How is the game selling? Does it look like you will be able to drop the mp charge? More importantly from your perspective does having beginning cues put you at a disadvantage? Are they not just for looks but have stats as well?? I am not sure about this type of system were some guy can whoop me in a game just because he has a strait shooting stick and my cue is bent like a bow.


Question for players: First off same question to you... Does having beginning cues put you at a disadvantage? Are there other "things" that you "need" to buy in order to make your game at least equal to others??
Can I start my own tournyments? Do they cost in-game money to host? Can I play in doubles(team) tourny's? If I can host them, can I decide on rule variations or is it set for some reason like to keep stat tracking fair or something?
I am really weary of any pay to play variations (please no comments how this is not, all games with micro transactions after the original purchase are in fact a variation of pay to play just maybe not pay to win depending on how its set up. I will never be convinced otherwise.

Anyhow thanks in advance to any that can answer these questions I look forward to your responses and hope that this is a pool game that I am looking for, as my last one was a big dissapointment.
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pooljunky  [developer] May 12, 2015 @ 9:32am 
I can't give you an answer on dropping the MP yearly minimum at this point in time. That is a to be seen situation.
You can play ok with the house cues. They have a slightly less miscue point, they can't hit the cue ball as hard. If you play a lot of 9-Ball/10-Ball, probably worth getting a break cue. The house cue also deflects more, but we have a back hand English application by default (you can change that) which tends to nullify the deflection. If you play a lot you probably will want to upgrade your cues at some point in time. But the game is very playable with the house cue.
AceOfSpades May 12, 2015 @ 9:35am 
Ok so cues are important, are there other things to buy to make your game better?? Magic chaulk/tables ect?? Most important question, can all this stuff be gotten through playing and earning in game cash?? Am I "coerced" to buy these with real cash or is there an alternative?
AceOfSpades May 12, 2015 @ 9:36am 
Oh and btw, thanks for a quik response Dev, I like the idea of someone actually paying attention to the boards...
AceOfSpades May 12, 2015 @ 9:43am 
Since I am thinking about it and I am positive i will end up asking this anyways can a player please do me a favor. How much out of pocket would I be to have what I need to compete in every type of pool game have all the cues i need to be competitive for one account???? Can someone please compute this for me?? The reason I am going through all this is because i won't be buying just 1 copy but I will be buying 4 copies. So other than the 100 for a 4 games , how much do i need to shell out to have each account "equiped"?
Last edited by AceOfSpades; May 12, 2015 @ 9:43am
pooljunky  [developer] May 12, 2015 @ 10:54am 
That really depends on what you want. You can look at the Store online, select Virtual Items and you can see all the cues, shafts, cue types.
If you really want to get everything, it would be a play cue, break cue, jump cue, and snooker/pub cue. You can add a lower deflection shaft if you want. All play cues have lower deflection than the house cue. The Tiger cues come with a Ultra X shaft which is a little lower than a normal play cue.
But I wouldn't just buy everything right away. I would play some and decide what you think you want/need.
AceOfSpades May 12, 2015 @ 11:04am 
So we are talking $30+ dollars per account to be competitive in all pool game types..at least (I stopped looking once I realized the prices and price conversion of just a few cues). I must say this was a disappointment. Don't mind a 10 dollar a year online subscription but this puts the game total well over $50 per account. That's just too much imho, we will just stick to what we have been playing, thanks for your time and answers.
Last edited by AceOfSpades; May 12, 2015 @ 11:04am
K1TCH1N May 12, 2015 @ 11:33am 
quick question regarding cues .are there none in game you can change to ,because ive been lookiing on there and cant find an option to change ,i see you metion you can buy them on store page but is that your own page because cant see an option on steam for that aswll ,and if i was to buy offf your page how does that then connect to my steam account
pooljunky  [developer] May 12, 2015 @ 12:35pm 
Basically you purchase V$ and use those to buy virtual items. If you don't have enough V$ for the purchase it will ask for the difference. You can purchase V$ using CC, PayPal or Steam wallet. When using the Wallet it will connect to your Steam account securely.
LONE*TK May 12, 2015 @ 9:56pm 
You are looking at around !600 Virtual dollars for the 4 cues.
You get 1000 with your yearly subscription so you would only pay the difference. 600 V$ (Around $6)
Hope this helps
LONE*TK May 12, 2015 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by I Am The Danger:
quick question regarding cues .are there none in game you can change to ,because ive been lookiing on there and cant find an option to change ,i see you metion you can buy them on store page but is that your own page because cant see an option on steam for that aswll ,and if i was to buy offf your page how does that then connect to my steam account

AFAIK Steam merely ports to the game lobby and links to your account.
So if you were to go to http://vponline.celeris.com/ and make an account then launch the game through steam it will ask you to login. You`d use the details you signed up with. Not your Steam ID.
Hope this helps
AceOfSpades May 12, 2015 @ 10:49pm 
I went to the store and those were not the prices I saw for the best deflection cues, unless I was missing something.
Wolfpack May 13, 2015 @ 8:44am 
Really deflection cues are not that important, I play this game for 2,5 years already and I can get used to any deflection. You better make sure to pot the ball without any spin on it which is the biggest deal. If you can pot well with no spin, then you are good enough to overcome any deflection.

AceOfSpades May 13, 2015 @ 9:28am 
Appreciate your reply Wolf, just too wary of this just being a money drain pay to win model. It even looks like you pay to enter tourny's according to the above dev comment. I don't do micro transaction games and hope they all fail IMHO. I may very well be wrong about this but just too many dollar signs for me in too many places when I only look for one.... the cost to buy. I don't mind DLC's but really dislike games that have "stores". it comes across as cheap and greedy.
AceOfSpades May 13, 2015 @ 9:30am 
I guess you can say, I am the type of person that will pay 100 dollars for everything up front in one price tag rather than pay the same 100 through a handful of transactions.
Bob Jun 3, 2016 @ 12:17pm 
I was gifted this game by a friend it is the steam version and I cannot seem to link it to my account. When I open the game to play online it auto-signs me in to my account if I use the internal browser but all the links will not work they go nowhere. The url changes and the screen goes blank. If I use an external browser it will ask me to sign in But no where does it give me anything to link it but it will open my account page and say I am online but as a gratis player and I am suppose to have gotten a free year premium account I received this game 6/1/16 so not even a week. The first time I opened the game it said downloading assets or something like that (file name vp4onlineS_4501.zip) and crashed before finishing. If I delete the game exe and rename the .old file I can get it to retry the download but it crashes every time. Can someone please help me before my year premium account expires
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Date Posted: May 12, 2015 @ 9:25am
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