Is Lisa a bad game?

[GrandYonic]

No.

[Ajogamer]

I definitely wouldn't call Lisa a bad game, and don't feel guilty in the slightest for enjoying it. (Now making those in-game decisions, on the other hand...) I agree that it can be kinda silly when people get offended over a game, since they can easily ignore it, but it is their right to not like the game, since people have different tastes, and different levels of tolerance for darker themes and drama. That doesn't exactly excuse the people who make a big fuss over it, but the fact of the matter's that there'll always be certain people who get offended or complain (hell, it even happens with a lot of games that are a lot less dark or emotionally intense than this one) so really, the best thing is probably just to ignore those people, since they really aren't worth getting worked up over.

I definitely hope any such people don't discourage Dingaling from making these types of games, though I'd figure when he was making LISA, he likely would have expected the possibility of some people being bothered by the game. Also looking at the Steam ratings page, looks like the vast majorty of people who played the game like it (seriously, a 98% positive ratio is pretty awesome), so luckily, it looks like those people are in the minority, and for what it's worth, I know all my friends I've shown it to have really liked the game as well. So yeah, to cut things short, I wouldn't worry too much. You can't control how people react, so the best you can do to ignore anyone that makes a fuss (though I'd still respect anyone that simply feels differently about the game, since there's nothing wrong with that).

[DD2k]

I'm kinda curious where you saw people being offended by LISA. I've seen people just think it's a dumb RPG Maker game, but have yet see anyone complain about the story aspects. Not denying that they're out there, I just haven't found them yet.

And to address some of your questions, personally I don't think LISA is a bad game, nor do I think enjoying it makes you a bad person. When it comes to feminist ideology everyone will see it differently. Some feminists praise the Bayonetta games as empowering to women and others condemn it for objectifying/over sexualization. When it comes to art, and video games are undeniably an art form, everyone can interpret it differently, even if it's at odds with what the artist had intended.

Personally I don't think LISA is offensive in the way that most people would probably find it to be. The fact that there is a lack of female characters doesn't make it sexist. It would be misogynistic if there were female characters that served purely the purpose of being abused and for the player to "come to their rescue" but Buddy can handle herself for the most part, and while she is in trouble, she doesn't want Brad to "save" her. The game doesn't glorify you in your conquest as you slaughter people. Even if some do deserve it or are even worse people than yourself.

[Ajogamer]

Originally posted by Wictosis:

I cant for the Buddy game. Especially if its darker. I dont get emotionally invested in games often. So I have hopes for whatever this series has to bring. Seeing how far they can go will be fun.

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to The Last Girl as well! Dunno how much darker I'd want it to go since LISA already got pretty dark, but eh, if it fits the story and is handled well as it was in this game, I'm sure I'll be fine with it (just wouldn't want it dark simply for the sake of being dark, basically). Definitely gonna be interesting to see how that turns out!

[DD2k]

Originally posted by Ajogamer:

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to The Last Girl as well! Dunno how much darker I'd want it to go since LISA already got pretty dark, but eh, if it fits the story and is handled well as it was in this game, I'm sure I'll be fine with it (just wouldn't want it dark simply for the sake of being dark, basically). Definitely gonna be interesting to see how that turns out!

Dingaling talked about how dark the next one will be on Here[www.siliconera.com]

The part specifically about how dark "The Last Girl" will be is "The range of sacrifice is very dark… And in the Buddy game it will only get worse… I think I’m really going to get in trouble with people."

[Arbie]

I've not seen anyone criticise Lisa's content by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on it. Misleading title btw.

[Ajogamer]

Originally posted by Dream Eater:

Dingaling talked about how dark the next one will be on Here[www.siliconera.com]

The part specifically about how dark "The Last Girl" will be is "The range of sacrifice is very dark… And in the Buddy game it will only get worse… I think I’m really going to get in trouble with people."

Ah, thanks, that was a pretty interesting interview to read!
Hmm, hopefully the Last Girl won't wind up turning off my friends then (I doubt they'd be judgemental, but people can have their limits), though either way, I imagine I'll be alright with it, and I'm certainly curious, as well.

[Arbie]

Originally posted by Wictosis:

No its not misleading. You probably took it the wrong way.

The thread's title resembles clickbait of a tabloid because it's ambiguous in nature before you read the content. It can be interpretated as bad quality rather than an opinion that it handles its content badly.
Another, similar thread regarding an user who experienced someone else's dislike for the game's sensitive content was labeled way better than this one. But whatever.

[Peligin]

Your thread is bad and you should feel bad. And no that isn't a joke.

[idk man]

While very informative, the guy doing the interview and the title he choose comes off as clickbait.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/30/finding-humour-lisas-world-violent-masculinity-perverts/
"Violent masculinity" despite Dingaling saying it wasn't his intention to have some kind of moral message.

[Arbie]

Well it is indeed a funny world full of violent men who are a bit deprived in their womanless lust.

[Wolf]

People who get offended by content in fictional media/artworks should pull the sticks out of their asses. /closethreadplease

[idk man]

Originally posted by Arbie:

Well it is indeed a funny world full of violent men who are a bit deprived in their womanless lust.

Yeah, but there's no point in looking deeper into an aspect that's simply funny. Like, there's a lot of stuff to interpret and think about but that isn't one of them, imo.

[LastSurvivor]

I literally see no difference between witch hunts of Joseph McCarthy and modern persecution of people, who aren't absolutely PC .
P.S.: Also, let's stop discussing offended people. Those losers just do it for attention. If you stop talking about them, they will sod off.

[FZeroRacer]

You sound more butthurt than anyone complaining about the game. The people that tend to be the most sensitive are those complaining about other people not liking certain aspects I find lately.

[FZeroRacer]

Originally posted by Crafting Breeding Grounds:

While very informative, the guy doing the interview and the title he choose comes off as clickbait.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/30/finding-humour-lisas-world-violent-masculinity-perverts/
"Violent masculinity" despite Dingaling saying it wasn't his intention to have some kind of moral message.

LISA is definitely trying to have a message. But what I think he's trying to avoid is him forcing a message through the game by authorial intent or anything like that. Rather, he wants the game to speak for itself and whatever themes you take away from that. The original LISA was very much the same way in that it had a fairly obvious message but it wasn't something explicitly told to you.