Russian Roulette (minor spoilers)

[themanmann]

I don't know how to feel about this part. I had several bad runs in a row where I was left with less that three party members remaining, and in my final attempt, all three opponents got the bullet on the first pull. At first I assumed it was scripted, but now I'm not sure that something meant to thin your party members should be left up to luck. Is it possible to lose all party members? Has this happened to anyone else?

Though I must admit, it is morbidly funny to watch as both men pull the trigger 20+ times on a presumably six-barrelled revolver.

[Commissar Jake]

I've done this, I legit went though and killed all my Party members via the roulette in an attempt to find out what happens for my list of Ending Dialog. It's entirely random as to when the trigger pulls, so you could take out every single person first shot or lose every party member.

It's all luck in the end.

[Dejojo]

Russian roulette is probably the worst part of the game. What could've been a fantastic sequence boils down to RNG. I ended up having to reset multiple times due to my low number of party members which just really took the gravitas out of the scene. The only time in the game where I felt the RPG elements and gameyness of the LISA really interfered with the narrative experience.

[Dejojo]

Russian roulette is probably the worst part of the game. What could've been a fantastic sequence boils down to RNG. I ended up having to reset multiple times due to my low number of party members which just really took the gravitas out of the scene. The only time in the game where I felt the RPG elements and gameyness of the LISA really interfered with the narrative experience.

[Hudston]

Originally posted by Dejojo:

Russian roulette is probably the worst part of the game. What could've been a fantastic sequence boils down to RNG. I ended up having to reset multiple times due to my low number of party members which just really took the gravitas out of the scene. The only time in the game where I felt the RPG elements and gameyness of the LISA really interfered with the narrative experience.

I like roulette, but it definitely should have been introduced later due to too few party members in the beginning. As for RNG, i kind of like it. You really don't know if you're going to lose a party member or not.

[Sleepy Frogge]

Personally? I founf luck seems to affect that. I mean literal in-game stat luck. Olan with the locket and gwyn's bow with a decent level is 130-150 luck. Many died on the first shot and I only had to reload a save twice. Once for the final idiot that survives a shot.

[Strange Johnson]

I really like the roulette. My second run, it left me with one other party member-- Percy. I think it helps the narrative and atmosphere further along by making the player feel all that weight on them even more.

I agree that it should've been introduced later, though. But, hey, I still think it's great fun.

[TheNewSon]

The RNG here is ridiculous. I wished this part to, at least, let you use that luck stat to do something. But nope, doesn't matter how much you got. It's actual luck that counts.

I agree with Dejojo on this one.

Also, this part is specially ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up if you play it at Pain Mode...

[themanmann]

Originally posted by Corvus:

Olan with the locket and gwyn's bow with a decent level is 130-150 luck. Many died on the first shot and I only had to reload a save twice. Once for the final idiot that survives a shot.

Originally posted by Sulfite:

I wished this part to, at least, let you use that luck stat to do something. But nope, doesn't matter how much you got. It's actual luck that counts.

Can anyone confirm either of these?

[Succ Me Hard Thru My Jorts]

I was crazy lucky. I went in with Percy in the mandatory sequence, and he won all three times. Then I went in with Rooster later and he won against everyone. So I didn't end up losing a single party member to Russian Roulette.

[Orutar]

Please Dingdaling, don't take note of these replies, one of the strong points of the game was this type of moments, when you have to take hard decisions and overcome the difficult spikes, I don't want the game changed just because some people whine.

It doesn't take out the gravitas of the narrative, quite the contrary, you have to continue with the loss of some of your party members you have made a bond.

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

First time I did it I lost my entire party without winning a single round and had to Game Over. XD

Next time I used Rage, Terry, and Crying Guy (can't remember his name Ferdy or something) and won 3 in a row. >_>

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Originally posted by themanmann:

Originally posted by Corvus:

Olan with the locket and gwyn's bow with a decent level is 130-150 luck. Many died on the first shot and I only had to reload a save twice. Once for the final idiot that survives a shot.

Originally posted by Sulfite:

I wished this part to, at least, let you use that luck stat to do something. But nope, doesn't matter how much you got. It's actual luck that counts.

Can anyone confirm either of these?

Totally random I would guess. I tried to test this after I won 3 in a row and used my 3 highest luck characters, and I gave them accessories that raised their luck and they still lost. Rage with the Broken Flower (raises luck like 10 points that Brad starts with) had 104 luck and lost on the first pull of the trigger. When i won 3 in a row I used Terry and someone else with lower luck, and they all won with around 40 luck.

As for losing guys...at this point in the game most of these guys aren't that great anyways so it's not a big deal. You probably only have a couple who are even above Level 10-12 and that's if you were grinding some XP earlier. Not to mention that most of the guys I picked up by then had similar skills so they were redundant.

Based on the Achievements there are like 20 more characters you can get so losing a few of these doesn't matter much. Besides...you could wait on getting most of them too until after this part next time you play. >_>

[Wolf]

Getting the Four Swords Guy to kill himself in roullete then selling off Toby. [www.nerdly.co.uk]

[JustAnotherDecoy]

On my second playthrough, I savescummed the bejeezus out of roulette and every other character-killing point and had a complete character list by the end of the game. Only a little sad there wasn't an "Ultimate Savescum" achievement for that one.

As for what it does for the game, it really did feel random in who died (though I didn't experiment with Luck stat boosting) and the mandatory three rounds felt really vicious at times, but I think that definitely contributed to the absurdly hopeless atmosphere that's important to Lisa.

[Silver Hemswood]

Just did this and lost every single party member before triggering the game over. I'm also assuming it's bugged because it won't let you go until you have three VICTORIES under your belt, not MATCHES.