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Not quite sure what the flags of the game are but: Took Joy - Beat the first friend (forget his name) to death with a bat - Sacrificed both limbs (also asked Buzzo why he was doing this and lost BOTH limbs AND items) - Spared old friends at the tree - Tried to spare father, but ended up fighting anyway - Spared Buddy from being cut up -
Joyful ending You become a mutant after the credits and sneak up on a sleeping buddy. Cut to black.
Yeah I was hoping that more insight was going to be given about Buzzo or a flashback about what happened to Brad about Lisa , unless I missed something - its' one of those stories where it's up to you to fill in the blanks.
I didn't think there was a way into the Lab. If there was, I missed it.
The Joyless ending looks like it was the same Although I think you mean Buddy? or is it different? did you also get a scene afterwards? There was a discussion between Yado and Bernard about the drug and it not having military uses, ending with Bernard saying "It's Buzzo".
I think it is safe to assume that Marty killed Lisa, who was Brad's little sister, in a fit of drunken ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rage, and that moment turned him around. and Joy definitely makes the monsters happen. But does it also cause surreal visions? maybe taking it more will result in more scenes?
I did not get that scene with the discussion. Also, yeah I meant Buddy instead of Lisa.
Yeah, despite taking it once, Brad would say he quit in cutscenes. Though my ending featured Old former party members attacking me. Lisa hides behind Rando's army. After the battle with Rando, Buddy absoleutly HATED Brad. Calling him abusive and causing more harm to her than 'protecting' her. Option at the very end to hug brad or not. Chose to hug, but I don't think that effects anything. Credits were all disjointed, filled with dark messages spliced inbetween. Then afterwards, you're a chunky mutant, and all you can do is creep forward to a hut, where you see buddy, then it cuts out. Back to title screen
Also, that was quite evident by Rando's moveset when you fight him. And...well...is there multiple endings? I just recently got Sorta Selfish, but Joyful. The hell does this mean now?
Selfish/Sorta Selfish/Selfless are directly linked to how many arms you have at the end of the game, Joyful means you had Brad (don't know if it affects other characters) take Joy and Joyless means you didn't take any minus the time Buzzo forces you, which from what I can see is the flag to get the interview at the end of the game.
I don't think there are going to be any cut scenes that straight out spell out some of the stuff that happened in Brad's past, but I am wondering if there are some you can miss now
Actually allow me to comment on this part of your message, Seeing as LISA (The Painful RPG) is a sequel/spiritual sequel to LISA the First (The freeware exploration RPG maker game Dingaling made) it's a bit more obvious as to what happened.
Spoiler Tiem Theory~ Marty was for sure a Drunken abusive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but he was more than that. Whilst he physically & Emotionally abused his Son Brad, He Raped/Molested his Daughter Lisa (As we can assume from 'Tricky Rick' from LtF) as well as keeping her locked up within their home (In LtF you need to escape your home without being spoted by Marty) -On a side note this led to LIsa having little to no friends (As proven by her funeral being empty) however if we assume she had one friend 'Buzzo',as maybe her only friend they would have a strong connection which would lead to Buzzo seeking revenge for Brad not protecting Lisa.-
Brad started to learn Martial arts to become strong enough to protect his younger sister from his father, however Bradcouldn't protect Lisa from herself leading to her Suicide via Hanging (When entering a ceartin cave you see Lisa hung).
This event traumatised Brad leading to him becoming a drug addicted as a way to numb his guilt from being unable to 'save' his sister. Whilst Marty did Changed, so horrified by his actions he did a 180 of his personality (Which is why he's nice to Buddy, acting like a proper father figure) but Brad will never be able to let go his hatred for Marty ruining his & his sisters life... which Buddy can't see Marty as the monster he was because she's never seen it.
But yes, it's a Cycle of abuse. The abused becomes the abuser, who feels justified in their actions. A common thing in such situations. Marty abused Brad and Brad unknowingly abuses Buddy by trying to 'protect' her life as he projects his sister onto her or as he refers to Buddy as 'His Second Chance' with his moment of apithiny coming at the end of the game with his Death.
... I maybe rattled on a bit too long. But yeah Brad IS a bad bad man sadly for the sad reasons.
The only characters I remember from the first Lisa game are Lisa herself, Marty, and "Rick." I do not have any theories on Yado or Nancy at the moment.
Rando is definitely Brad's old student, since they both have the same stutter, but did Brad really disfigure him? I thought that guy served as foreshadowing for Mr. Angouli or whatever his name was, the guy who disfigures Buddy's face. It looked more like he had claw marks all across his face rather than bandages, and he didn't disappear when you left and came back so I don't think he was a hallucination. Or maybe I'm thinking of a different NPC. I went to the ice mountain to check but I couldn't find him. Maybe I missed a hallucination? I guess it's totally possible Brad disfigured him, he definitely has an anger problem and Rando's face was all ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, but I thought that might have been caused by Joy use, which was why he's so powerful.
Speaking of, the ending was real depressing, but I felt the worst part is that Buddy is using Joy now. Or at least tried it once, but she still has a whole stash and that ♥♥♥♥'s addictive. Maybe it won't affect her the same way since it's hinted she's the result of an experiment by the Joyfuls, and will give her the power to defend herself in Last Girl? I dunno, can only wait and see. I'm sure it's going to be just as depressing and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up though.