*spoilers?* Lisa the Joyful : Buffalo Van ♥♥♥♥ is an villain?

[Mr.Brink]

In the opening bit of the Lisa: The Joyful trailer, Van ♥♥♥♥'s name could be seen on the wall. What are some of your theories?

[ModdedPan]

I think Buddy wanted to take down the major gang leaders of Olathe, and Buffalo was among the ones that Brad took care of. Whether or not Buffalo is still alive, he still had his group disbanded. He is no longer in power, so he is crossed out from the very start. You can see people like Han Tsunami and Hawk Hollywood crossed out, too.

[macmc]

Well, he is the leader of one of the final gangs,and one of his lines is "YOU'RE the guy kicking everyone's ass for that chick!" seems to imply that news of Brad spread quickly, and more importantly, that Buff was important enough to know about it. I don't think he was one of Rando's followers however, or even under Buzzo. I mean, he joins your party and seems generally good hearted.

Another name was Han Tsunami, the leader of the Devil's Bath Boys. This is similar to Buff's group, but the thing that throws me off is that the entrance is guarded by a strong member of Rando's guard, making me think that they have at least some ties to Rando.

Finally, Hawk Hollywood. We know he had some power, again being one of the 4 final bosses in the game, but he doesn't seem particularly dangerous. (read: "We follow Hawk, but we don't like him" and "good job, he was really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying") Furthermore, he is NOT dead at the end of LtP, unless you consider Pain Mode canon.

So there we are, 3 totally unrelated gangs with unrelated motivations. The only reasoning I can think of is that the clans listed are the ones big enough to know of Buddy's existence, and are therefore powerful enough to capture her.

Perhaps they are simply rival clans to the Rando army, and she is now continuing in their stead, to eliminate any possible threats and ensure her safety. It doesn't explain everything, and certainly can't be the only motivation, but it's a start.

This assumes that Hawk Hollywood is canonically dead, and that Buff died in the final fight or simply disbanded his gang and was forgotten.

[Mr.Brink]

Thanks Hintster.

[cccmar]

There are two theories people seem to be in favour of: 1. Buddy does this in order to eliminate gang leaders who may know about her for her own safety. 2. She's trying to "cleanse Olathe." Hawk, Buff, and Han all usually kept to themselves, so I don't know if either theory is true - it seems that they're crossed, because they're no longer in power. To be honest, I'm surprised, as I didn't even expect these guys to be name-dropped. What strikes me though are the polka dot flags in one of the scenes (I know this was mentioned before). This may suggest that she's actually working, wittingly or unwittingly, with Yado or Buzzo for their self-serving desires. Perhaps there are more possibilities for the events to unfold, but I'm pretty sure Buzzo will play a major role in this game, he may even be the most important character besides Buddy...

[LastSurvivor]

I believe that Yado wants to make Buddy the most powerful person in Olathe through eliminating the strongest people around.

[ActuallyZombie]

Originally posted by Bad-assDude:

I believe that Yado wants to make Buddy the most powerful person in Olathe through eliminating the strongest people around.

That'd make sense if Fardy's name wasn't on there.

The list is weird as hell, honestly, I can't make heads or tails of it. Gang leaders? Possible leads to answers? Just killin' ♥♥♥♥???

[LastSurvivor]

Originally posted by TurtleZombie:

Originally posted by Bad-assDude:

I believe that Yado wants to make Buddy the most powerful person in Olathe through eliminating the strongest people around.

That'd make sense if Fardy's name wasn't on there.

The list is weird as hell, honestly, I can't make heads or tails of it. Gang leaders? Possible leads to answers? Just killin' ♥♥♥♥???

By "powerful" I don't necessarily "kill you with an aside glance", it could also mean the most important people in Olathe, and I think a man who can get you anywhere in his truck (There was a screenshot with truck that has "Lardy Transportation" written on it) in a ruined world is pretty useful.
Maybe Buddy will receive in the beggining an anonymous message, that says: "Kill all the guys on this list and the world is saved and you get to rule it" (remember "All alone in the world you own").

[cccmar]

Originally posted by Bad-assDude:

Originally posted by TurtleZombie:

That'd make sense if Fardy's name wasn't on there.

The list is weird as hell, honestly, I can't make heads or tails of it. Gang leaders? Possible leads to answers? Just killin' ♥♥♥♥???

By "powerful" I don't necessarily "kill you with an aside glance", it could also mean the most important people in Olathe, and I think a man who can get you anywhere in his truck (There was a screenshot with truck that has "Lardy Transportation" written on it) in a ruined world is pretty useful.
Maybe Buddy will receive in the beggining an anonymous message, that says: "Kill all the guys on this list and the world is saved and you get to rule it" (remember "All alone in the world you own").

That's a cool theory. Buddy believes that she is a saviour (also, she took some Joy - we don't know whether that changes things in any way, but I'd assume it does change her perception a bit), so she may want to prove herself and really make a difference in Olathe. In other words, she's going to become a ninja/assassin, lol.

[ModdedPan]

One question is how Buddy will learn to use a sword. Buddy is a 9-12 year old girl who spent most of her time inside a cave under a house. She did little physical activity, let alone sword training. I'm assuming she'll just go crazy with a sword while not knowing how to use it in battles, until Buzzo (Or maybe Rando ) teach her.

[cccmar]

Originally posted by Yazan Barghouti:

One question is how Buddy will learn to use a sword. Buddy is a 9-12 year old girl who spent most of her time inside a cave under a house. She did little physical activity, let alone sword training. I'm assuming she'll just go crazy with a sword while not knowing how to use it in battles, until Buzzo (Or maybe Rando ) teach her.

Perhaps Brad taught her some moves while they were still living together, off-screen. Buzzo remarks at one point how impressive/resilient she is, so maybe that's the reason - or maybe the Joy she took made her into an ultimate warrior. I can't think of any other explanation right now. :D

[ModdedPan]

Originally posted by cccmgr:

Originally posted by Yazan Barghouti:

One question is how Buddy will learn to use a sword. Buddy is a 9-12 year old girl who spent most of her time inside a cave under a house. She did little physical activity, let alone sword training. I'm assuming she'll just go crazy with a sword while not knowing how to use it in battles, until Buzzo (Or maybe Rando ) teach her.

Perhaps Brad taught her some moves while they were still living together, off-screen. Buzzo remarks at one point how impressive/resilient she is, so maybe that's the reason - or maybe the Joy she took made her into an ultimate warrior. I can't think of any other explanation right now. :D

I don't think it's likely for Brad to teach her moves. Brad was VERY protective. He didn't even view her being found as a possibility.

[cccmar]

Originally posted by Yazan Barghouti:

Originally posted by cccmgr:

Perhaps Brad taught her some moves while they were still living together, off-screen. Buzzo remarks at one point how impressive/resilient she is, so maybe that's the reason - or maybe the Joy she took made her into an ultimate warrior. I can't think of any other explanation right now. :D

I don't think it's likely for Brad to teach her moves. Brad was VERY protective. He didn't even view her being found as a possibility.

Well, perhaps this issue will be clarified in the starting area. I guess that Brad would make a fine tutorial boss, but I may be mistaken. At least she could put the poor guy out of his misery for good...

[Mr.Brink]

Originally posted by cccmgr:

Originally posted by Yazan Barghouti:

I don't think it's likely for Brad to teach her moves. Brad was VERY protective. He didn't even view her being found as a possibility.

Well, perhaps this issue will be clarified in the starting area. I guess that Brad would make a fine tutorial boss, but I may be mistaken. At least she could put the poor guy out of his misery for good...

Knowing Ding, He'll likely make it an option to kill him or not.

[AnnieBee43]

Originally posted by Mr.Brink:

In the opening bit of the Lisa: The Joyful trailer, Van ♥♥♥♥'s name could be seen on the wall. What are some of your theories?

why does ♥♥♥♥ get cencored?

[Mr.Brink]

Its a negative slang term for a lesbians.