Possible problem with "Hard bargain"

[Tuidjy]

From the description, the talent should provide a discount equal to half the repair skill, up to a maximum of 10%. In the game, it seems to provide a discount equal to twice the repair skill, up to a maximum of 15%.

I am not going to actually test this anymore, as I am taking a break from game, and I just noticed, so I may be wrong.

[Trese Brothers]

Thanks, will take a look and see if the description needs improve.

[Gilmoy]

Additional data:
+ Hard Bargain's effect seems to be correct.
[x] Engineer with 15 Repair got -7%
[x] Engineer with 22 Repair gets -10% (capped)

- Its text in the New Ship view is definitely wrong.
[_] When Engineer with 22 Repair is getting -10%, it says "by 15%".

I think the New Ship view's Hard Bargain text blurb generator is using an out-of-date formula, which is different from the formula it's actually using to compute price changes.

[Trese Brothers]

Originally posted by Gilmoy:

I think the New Ship view's Hard Bargain text blurb generator is using an out-of-date formula, which is different from the formula it's actually using to compute price changes.

Correct about that, fixed!

[Tuidjy]

I think the display is still incorrect.

I have an Engineer with Repair skill 12, which should grant a 6% discount. The "New Ship" panel says that I am getting the full 10%... and while I don't have a calculator, the prices also look as if they have been discounted by 10%.

[Trese Brothers]

Can you share a screenshot of the place where you are seeing the issue?

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by Trese Brothers:

Can you share a screenshot of the place where you are seeing the issue?

Sure.[i.imgur.com] (version 3.0.27)

It's a composite, showing the Engineer... just in case I've got it wrong.

[darion-neclador]

That's what you get for needlessly nerfing that poor poor talent :D

[Tuidjy]

Originally posted by darion-neclador:

That's what you get for needlessly nerfing that poor poor talent :D

I also think that this talent is underwhelming.

I buy my first ship before it has really become relevant, and by the time it has maxed out, money has become irrelevant, and I have contact that offer better discounts.

[Trese Brothers]

Simple solution, don't train it :D Certainly not every one of the 598 Talents will appeal to every player. You'd have to have a pretty impressive crew to get coverage.

[Trese Brothers]

Fixed the text blurb for next.

[darion-neclador]

Originally posted by Trese Brothers:

Simple solution, don't train it :D Certainly not every one of the 598 Talents will appeal to every player. You'd have to have a pretty impressive crew to get coverage.

Radical, totally radical, my dude.

[Trese Brothers]

New challenge mode, get all 598 Talents on a single Ship!!!

[darion-neclador]

Sorry, but a full lvl 40 7/42 does only have 441 talent points (not even considering that you prolly have 'fractions' that you need to round up). So unless a bigger ship is coming that'll be real hard :D .

[Trese Brothers]

Originally posted by darion-neclador:

Sorry, but a full lvl 40 7/42 does only have 441 talent points (not even considering that you prolly have 'fractions' that you need to round up). So unless a bigger ship is coming that'll be real hard :D .

git gud? :P

[darion-neclador]

make gaem more ez?

:D :D :D