Star Traders: Frontiers

Star Traders: Frontiers

Exgene Dec 2, 2017 @ 11:47am
Greed is bad.
Just wanted to say, I am getting into the habit of immediately dumping crew that get the 'greedy' trait. Permanently (and repeatedly) increasing pay without any benefit is rediculous. Get out, bob (or whoever it is). I'd rather train up a replacement than put up with a greedy crew member.

A chance on pay to have it be an extra 2$ or whatever, I suppose I could live with.

Incidentally, I don't like the 'permanent raise' option to dispel a mutiny. I'd be OK with paying a one-time bonus, but permanently increasing my operating overhead seems most distasteful.
Last edited by Exgene; Dec 2, 2017 @ 11:49am
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Trese Brothers  [developer] Dec 2, 2017 @ 11:55am 
@exgene - great preferences for your Captain. Some players dump ever Brute who ever comes on board. I can understand dumping Greedy crew, but I've also seen one who had such amazing Skill Bonuses and starting job of Combat Medic ... I had to keep him and put up with it!

The Mutiny option to increase everyone's pay rate by $2 should definitely be considered a last ditch option. If you have any other option, take it. If you lack the funds to pay them off, can't stand to fight, and don't have any talents ... it may be your only option!
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Exgene Dec 2, 2017 @ 12:19pm 
It seems that any of the crew-pacifying options (including the talents to keep deserters) involve a permanent raise. I would much prefer a one-time payout option - the equivalent of giving the whiner a private (bottle? box? tube?) of spice. One-time cost, shuts them up.

Real life example: My real-life employer doesn't reward / persuade with permanent raises when possible. Many times it's a home depot gift card. (one time gift vs permanent overhead issue)
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Trese Brothers  [developer] Dec 2, 2017 @ 12:20pm 
@exgene - there is a bonus offer exactly as you've said. It is called "Pay Reparations" and does not include raising salaries.
Exgene Dec 2, 2017 @ 12:44pm 
Oh, I stand corrected. Haven't seen that one pop up. Any chance to get a deserter-retainer talent along the same lines? I think quartermaster and commander both get a give-the-quitter-a-raise talent - perhaps change one of those to a one-time payout instead?
Trese Brothers  [developer] Dec 2, 2017 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by Exgene:
Oh, I stand corrected. Haven't seen that one pop up. Any chance to get a deserter-retainer talent along the same lines? I think quartermaster and commander both get a give-the-quitter-a-raise talent - perhaps change one of those to a one-time payout instead?

I can look at adding a new Mutiny Talent for Quartermasters. None of the Talents increase pay rate. Here are the 4 Talents descriptions:

Commander
Powerful words from a strong leader pull the crew together. The mutiny ends and Morale of the entire crew is increased by 10 + Command skill

Doctor
A ship's crew loves a good doctor, and a calm voice of reason can calm angry minds. The mutiny ends and Morale of entire crew is increased by 10 + Doctor skill

Military Officer
Barked orders and rigid authority can snap a mutiny in seconds. The mutiny ends and Morale of entire crew is increased by 10 + Command skill

Pirate
Outright killing the lowest Morale mutineer sets a cruel example and reminds the crew who is in charge. The mutiny ends and Morale of the entire crew is increased by 20 + Intimidate Skill

They all have a $0 cost.
Exgene Dec 2, 2017 @ 4:24pm 
Sorry, perhaps I snuck the other point in without enough clarity. I was referring to deserters at this point, not mutiny:

(quartermaster)
Contract Bargain When landing in a zone, the highest level crew member who attempts to abandon the ship reconsiders, but their salary increases by $2


(zealot - guess it wasn't commander)
Unbending Law When landing in a zone, the highest level crew member who attempts to abandon the ship reconsiders, but their salary increases by $2

Trese Brothers  [developer] Dec 2, 2017 @ 4:31pm 
Ah! Gotcha. Preventing desert will always come at a price like that I think.
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