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Why change Escort to Tavern Keeper?
Why was this changed?? I love ToS1 but at this point if you're going to change roles to make them like ToS2, why keep ToS1 online at all if it's not gonna keep its own identity?

I really hope all the other roles are staying as is...
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Flavorable Jan 9 @ 1:17pm 
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The role wasn't changed, the name was changed. This was done to remove unnecessary sexual references from the game. It has nothing to do with ToS2.
Nah, it was pretty unnecessary to change it.
sky Jan 9 @ 3:04pm 
I honestly prefer it being named Tavern Keeper rather than Escort, because it fits a village/town more than an Escort does. + it’s more PG :NekoHappy:
Mathroy Jan 9 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Flavorable:
The role wasn't changed, the name was changed. This was done to remove unnecessary sexual references from the game. It has nothing to do with ToS2.
Then it was 100% woke and unnecessary to change it.

EDIT: Pardon me for being aggressive. I really think changing something that's been here for 10 years is not a good thing.
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Flavorable Jan 22 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Mathroy:
Originally posted by Flavorable:
The role wasn't changed, the name was changed. This was done to remove unnecessary sexual references from the game. It has nothing to do with ToS2.
Then it was 100% woke and unnecessary to change it.

EDIT: Pardon me for being aggressive. I really think changing something that's been here for 10 years is not a good thing.
"Woke" is a political buzzword.

You're free to not like the change, however, if a game wants to stay alive, it needs to bring in a broader public. Removing unnecessary sexual references doesn't just open the game up to a wider public, it also creates more player retainment because people no longer have to be subjected to inappropriate jokes of sexual nature, or even forceful non-consensual sex jokes due to a role's name.

When a simple name change makes a huge positive difference for a lot of people, and is only an issue of "I don't like change" for others, the choice really is easy.

You'll get over the name change.
spread Jan 29 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Flavorable:
Originally posted by Mathroy:
Then it was 100% woke and unnecessary to change it.

EDIT: Pardon me for being aggressive. I really think changing something that's been here for 10 years is not a good thing.
"Woke" is a political buzzword.

You're free to not like the change, however, if a game wants to stay alive, it needs to bring in a broader public. Removing unnecessary sexual references doesn't just open the game up to a wider public, it also creates more player retainment because people no longer have to be subjected to inappropriate jokes of sexual nature, or even forceful non-consensual sex jokes due to a role's name.

When a simple name change makes a huge positive difference for a lot of people, and is only an issue of "I don't like change" for others, the choice really is easy.

You'll get over the name change.
Dear Flavorable, I want to ask something. Why Tavern Keeper cant know if they roleblocked or couldnt. Its a hard time saying you roleblocked a transporter or a retributionist because you dont know if you can or cant roleblock them. I think it used to be different before the change. Thank you.
Flavorable Jan 30 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by frutiger aero:
Originally posted by Flavorable:
"Woke" is a political buzzword.

You're free to not like the change, however, if a game wants to stay alive, it needs to bring in a broader public. Removing unnecessary sexual references doesn't just open the game up to a wider public, it also creates more player retainment because people no longer have to be subjected to inappropriate jokes of sexual nature, or even forceful non-consensual sex jokes due to a role's name.

When a simple name change makes a huge positive difference for a lot of people, and is only an issue of "I don't like change" for others, the choice really is easy.

You'll get over the name change.
Dear Flavorable, I want to ask something. Why Tavern Keeper cant know if they roleblocked or couldnt. Its a hard time saying you roleblocked a transporter or a retributionist because you dont know if you can or cant roleblock them. I think it used to be different before the change. Thank you.

Roleblock immunity was not seen by the role, neither prior to the name change nor after. Only as someone who is roleblock immune do you get the message: "Someone tried to roleblock you, but you are immune!"

As said: The name-change was solely that, a name change. There were no additional changes to either Tavern Keeper nor Bootlegger. In fact: Both roles, apart from having their name changed, haven't had a single change to the role or how it works since the introduction of the roles at the start of the franchise.
spread Jan 30 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by Flavorable:
Originally posted by frutiger aero:
Dear Flavorable, I want to ask something. Why Tavern Keeper cant know if they roleblocked or couldnt. Its a hard time saying you roleblocked a transporter or a retributionist because you dont know if you can or cant roleblock them. I think it used to be different before the change. Thank you.

Roleblock immunity was not seen by the role, neither prior to the name change nor after. Only as someone who is roleblock immune do you get the message: "Someone tried to roleblock you, but you are immune!"

As said: The name-change was solely that, a name change. There were no additional changes to either Tavern Keeper nor Bootlegger. In fact: Both roles, apart from having their name changed, haven't had a single change to the role or how it works since the introduction of the roles at the start of the franchise.
Okay Thanks <3
Bishop Feb 5 @ 5:46pm 
I too will keep referring to them as escorts.
Makes sense to me. Since I only began playing roughly a year or so ago, I was sometimes subjected to that as the Tavern Keeper/Bootlegger (formerly known as Escort/Consort). It can be annoying as players will do it anyway, regardless of role name, but that alone did occasionally make it worse. Thanks for clarifying. <3
Because it's PeEgEe ooooOOOOoooo! There's still ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MURDER and BLOOD... But god forbid there's a REFERENCE to having sex....
my only issue is that Town Killing and Tavern Keeper are both TK. gets confusing when the discussion gets heated
Originally posted by SweptThr.one:
my only issue is that Town Killing and Tavern Keeper are both TK. gets confusing when the discussion gets heated

Then just claim Tavern? Or even better, continue calling it Escort.
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