Ranked Elo

[Fritzalicious]

This has to change.
Let me give you an example...

We have 4 mafia, an EXE claims he is exe and tells town who is target is (Reported for gamethrowing) SK kills our mafioso day 2 and then tells town "OH Sorry guys but i have to go, Someone kill me pls.." she leaves that night (Reported for gamethrowing) Our janitor gets jailed and does not give a role, Executed. Our GF gets put up on stand and DOES NOT GIVE A ROLE, hanged. Now, me with my will of Sheriff and visits each night, all ready and prepared. Has to win against 6 townies and a surv who sure as heck is voting with town. Sheriff spots me next night. Im boned. Now tell me how another loss too my Elo is fair.

Im Amne, cool. Dead night one. Elo loss.

Im Exe. Cool. Attacked night one and put "Blank is immune" in mafias death note. Shot by vig. Put under bus by Vig. Hanged. Elo loss.

What about if TOS ranked went by games played or hours played, that would sure weed out the trolls (With the reporting system too). I just want to have a fun ranked game taken serious, But this happens all the time.

[Vandalay]

Well first of all I will say, ELO is broken all around, but not necesserally for the reasons you point out, IMO the biggest issue I have with it is, in ELO hell, almost all games are decided by gamethrowers, cheaters etc... which results in more luck, then once you get into good ELO, you'll pretty steadily increase, as towns winrate goes up, and your chance of being town is much higher. IMO the biggest problem with ELO, is the lack of a reset time, There were suppose to be seasons where every few months, everyone returns to square 1. That dosen't seem to be happening.


That being said, with ELO the point isn't that 1 game is supposed to determine how good or bad of a player you are. Think less like bowling, and more like poker. In poker there are technically skill levels, and there are indeed professional level players. But, I'd say if we put the world champion of poker, against a, mid level poker player, the mid level player would still win at least 10-25% of the games. You won't turn every losing game into a win, and yes quite a bit is going to be dictated by factors entirely outside of your control. but over a few hundred games, better players, will win more than worse players. You can't turn every losing game into a win, but you can turn SOME of them into wins, and over time all players should get roughly the same amount of losing games, and better players could stand out, by turning a larger percentage of them than players less skilled than they are.