Want Some Opinions On The Jailor Meta

[ShadowQuill]

The common meta for most ranked matches is Jailor claiming D1, and so many times I have seen people in game complain that it ruins the game and makes it impossible to win for Mafia. What do you all think of the Jailor meta?

[YMFTCTB]

im pretty new to the game, so my opinion should prob be taken with a grain of salt, but i fail to see how thats impossible to win for maf. if anything it takes lookout/town protect away from other people so maf is unlikely to need to worry about them, and as soon as the town protect/lookout dies you know that unless random town is a protect you can take jailor out with no issue.

[Hieda no Ajuu]

The problem isn't actually about the killing. The problem is that it allows town members to confirm themselves N1 without any risk. The ideal jailor meta strategy goes something like this:

1) Jailor is a 100% safe confirm at any time, as it's a unique role and if someone else tries to say they're jailor, you just jail and execute them.
2) As such, jailor claims D1 and asks for visiting roles to go on them.
3) TP protects jailor from death N1. Mafia attacks someone else for obvious reasons.
4) Lookout confirms all town protects/invests/visiting supports D2.
5) Town now has more confirmed townies than the number of mafia members in the game and wins by process of elimination.

The roles that can spoil this are the "harmless" mafia roles such as forger/framer putting doubt into the lookout's N1 results. Or mafia could get lucky and hit the lookout. But even in these situations, town can still be assured if there's a spy or second lookout.

[nicestpancake]

First of all, I would like to preface this by saying that I completely agree... on both sides.

It's ranked. It's where you go to play the game at it's most hardcore, so this should be totally allowed. If the people playing ranked want to ruin the hidden role aspect of gameplay, then they can go ahead, because clearly, that's how they like to have fun with it, I guess.

If that's not how you like to play the game, then don't play ranked. That's why I don't, because those people can't relax when playing and I don't personally jive with that energy.

It's all about what you find is fun in the game, and clearly you like the hidden roles and higher maf win rate, so come join us for the more lax gameplay in standard.