Do they even actually ban people?

[Candyman]

Just sat through a game of some troll spamming the N word and cursing at everyone. Reported them and I'm sure I wasnt the only one. I've never actually seen anyone get banned from this game lol

[LaughingButterCup]

Yes they do, but there will always be a lot of gamethrowers (mainly on classic) due to no paywall, it's just as easy to make a new account if banned so they can get away with it. If you want to play Town Of Salem with less spammers/gamethrowers/cheater then consider (if you haven't got it already) buying the Coven expansion as because of the paywall, people will not gamethrow as they paid for it and would lose it!

Also because of all of the reports, it'll take a few days before they will be banned, so have that in mind!

[Candyman]

Originally posted by LaughingButterCup:

Yes they do, but there will always be a lot of gamethrowers (mainly on classic) due to the paywall, it's just as easy to make a new account if banned so they can get away with it. If you want to play Town Of Salem with less spammers/gamethrowers/cheater then consider (if you haven't got it already) buying the Coven expansion as because of the paywall, people will not gamethrow as they paid for it and would lose it!

Also because of all of the reports, it'll take a few days before they will be banned, so have that in mind!

Thanks for the response/info! That makes a lot of sense honestly.

[Jirodyne]

Originally posted by Bluewave41:

Originally posted by LaughingButterCup:

Also because of all of the reports, it'll take a few days before they will be banned, so have that in mind!

It shouldn't take days for obvious cases like this but BMG is so damn paranoid and refuses to give anyone besides devs power over the game. Not even a GMOD could remove someone from the game if they were toxic so they keep coming back because nobody can do anything to stop them.

I get discord pings the moment someone spams the N word in ANY way. This includes unicode, spacing, letter replacements, anything: http://prntscr.com/i2yfvb

They just sit there as a reminder of how useless we are since BMG doesn't care about the state of their own game.

It takes days, because they get reports every single day, a LOT of them. if 10 people report a player in a match, it doesn't create 1 report with 10 complains in it. It creates 10 seperate reports to sort through, especially if the people aren't reporting on the same thing.

Whats more, it takes time to sort through the report and see clearly if the player is actually breaking the rules, as without a lot of information to go off of, they have to go through the entire match till they notice of offence that got reported.

For example, if you say someone said the N word on day 12, then it helps them know where to look. But if you don't say any time, just that someone said the N word, then they have to carefully go through each day to try and find where exactly he said it so they can take action.

That is, if he even DID it at all. That's the other thing, there are also a LOT of false reports too.

To the point they created a trial helping system for players, that players can of their own free will, help the devs sift through all the junk and find the players actually needing to be taken action against.

We get to sit through reports and see if they are fake or not, and if a report gets told it isn't fake by multiple people then the Devs themselves will get to see the report, go through it themselves, and hand out the punishment needed.

Either way, all of it takes time. It can take days, even weeks. Especially since each match is a short 15 mins or so depending on how fast or slow it goes.

The devs love the game, and want to help, it's just that there are too many reports, and most of them are false reports. They can't help everyone quickly in that situation.

[Flavorable]

Originally posted by RainbowC22:

Originally posted by Bluewave41:

It shouldn't take days for obvious cases like this but BMG is so damn paranoid and refuses to give anyone besides devs power over the game. Not even a GMOD could remove someone from the game if they were toxic so they keep coming back because nobody can do anything to stop them.

I get discord pings the moment someone spams the N word in ANY way. This includes unicode, spacing, letter replacements, anything: http://prntscr.com/i2yfvb

They just sit there as a reminder of how useless we are since BMG doesn't care about the state of their own game.

It takes days, because they get reports every single day, a LOT of them. if 10 people report a player in a match, it doesn't create 1 report with 10 complains in it. It creates 10 seperate reports to sort through, especially if the people aren't reporting on the same thing.

Whats more, it takes time to sort through the report and see clearly if the player is actually breaking the rules, as without a lot of information to go off of, they have to go through the entire match till they notice of offence that got reported.

For example, if you say someone said the N word on day 12, then it helps them know where to look. But if you don't say any time, just that someone said the N word, then they have to carefully go through each day to try and find where exactly he said it so they can take action.

That is, if he even DID it at all. That's the other thing, there are also a LOT of false reports too.

To the point they created a trial helping system for players, that players can of their own free will, help the devs sift through all the junk and find the players actually needing to be taken action against.

We get to sit through reports and see if they are fake or not, and if a report gets told it isn't fake by multiple people then the Devs themselves will get to see the report, go through it themselves, and hand out the punishment needed.

Either way, all of it takes time. It can take days, even weeks. Especially since each match is a short 15 mins or so depending on how fast or slow it goes.

The devs love the game, and want to help, it's just that there are too many reports, and most of them are false reports. They can't help everyone quickly in that situation.

Blue is a Judge, trust me when I say they know the workings of the Trial. ;)

Also, since there are some obvious big bugs with the reporting system that aren't being fixed, Blue actually has a point.

[lockwoodx]

Not sure about Bans but I can vouch they do suspend. Had 1 48hr slap on the wrist for an off-color joke I KNEW was almost too edgy and took my punishment like a man back in the fall.

[Beyrone]

lol @ someone who obviously knows nothing about how the trial system works trying to tell blue how the trial system works

[lockwoodx]

If they don't ban people I'll keep flooding them with reports until they ban me. It's THAT bad on the weekends and I could take out a few hundred people myself if I had the power to ban them.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by abizoey:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

If they don't ban people I'll keep flooding them with reports until they ban me. It's THAT bad on the weekends and I could take out a few hundred people myself if I had the power to ban them.

Devs don’t do ♥♥♥♥ but judges/jurors/mods etc. do despite our powers being limited. I can assure you I personally suspended around 700 people the other day. But if you want to get yourself banned then sure, go ahead, not sure what it’ll prove but have fun!

They're legit reports so it would look REALLY bad on their end if they dare tried. It's more about sending a message that they need to get off their duffs and do something that has an impact on the quality of life for their customers/players.

[Flavorable]

Oh wow.. Three judges replying in one Steam thread.. I've never seen this happen. Lol. I'm almost getting scared now.. o_o

[Flavorable]

By the way (and yes, I get to double post, this is my territory darnit)..

I'd like a big shoutout to our Judges, since they (along with all the jurors and the Mods/Admins) are the ones that do a -LOT- of work behind the scenes and we, as a community, have them to thank for actively trying to make this a better community.

So for that, my deepest gratitude.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by abizoey:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

They're legit reports so it would look REALLY bad on their end if they dare tried. It's more about sending a message that they need to get off their duffs and do something that has an impact on the quality of life for their customers/players.

Wait so who exactly are you trying to send a message to? Because I’m pretty sure the devs have never even taken a look at the trial system before. Trying to spam the system with reports just gives more work to the people who are already doing all the devs’ work for them for free.

annndddd I'm back. Here's where you've got the wrong impression. "trying to spam" implies malice and is not the proper context due to me using "spam" as just a lazy catch-all word used to describe the amount of reports I could potentially send daily due to playtime+exposure etc. That's the crux of it.

I literally ignore 50-60% of all the potential reports because I perfectly understand what kind of strain that puts on the system. What I'm saying is maybe it's time I start reporting EVERY LITTLE THING I CAN because that's how bad it is right now. You guys might see those legit reports coming from 1 person as spam so that's the word I used to describe it... but in reality it would be sending a message that if ONE guy can generate such an enormous amount of reports on their own then you've got a MUCH bigger problem as a whole.

As a genuinely chaotic neutral individual I don't go about things in the cleanest way when trying to make points. Hell sometimes I'll even cut corners or look the other way if it suits my needs. IF I were to ever report every single legit infraction I come across tho... it would be a tidal wave. My post was fantasizing about doing it without actually doing it. Sometimes it's better to put it down in words so you can feel better and let it go for now. That's exactly what I did and had a delicious lunch instead.

[WillieWest]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

Originally posted by abizoey:

Wait so who exactly are you trying to send a message to? Because I’m pretty sure the devs have never even taken a look at the trial system before. Trying to spam the system with reports just gives more work to the people who are already doing all the devs’ work for them for free.

annndddd I'm back. Here's where you've got the wrong impression. "trying to spam" implies malice and is not the proper context due to me using "spam" as just a lazy catch-all word used to describe the amount of reports I could potentially send daily due to playtime+exposure etc. That's the crux of it.

I literally ignore 50-60% of all the potential reports because I perfectly understand what kind of strain that puts on the system. What I'm saying is maybe it's time I start reporting EVERY LITTLE THING I CAN because that's how bad it is right now. You guys might see those legit reports coming from 1 person as spam so that's the word I used to describe it... but in reality it would be sending a message that if ONE guy can generate such an enormous amount of reports on their own then you've got a MUCH bigger problem as a whole.

As a genuinely chaotic neutral individual I don't go about things in the cleanest way when trying to make points. Hell sometimes I'll even cut corners or look the other way if it suits my needs. IF I were to ever report every single legit infraction I come across tho... it would be a tidal wave. My post was fantasizing about doing it without actually doing it. Sometimes it's better to put it down in words so you can feel better and let it go for now. That's exactly what I did and had a delicious lunch instead.

So, what you're saying is, all you needed was a Snickers because you're not you when you're hungry? :)

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by WillieWest:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

annndddd I'm back. Here's where you've got the wrong impression. "trying to spam" implies malice and is not the proper context due to me using "spam" as just a lazy catch-all word used to describe the amount of reports I could potentially send daily due to playtime+exposure etc. That's the crux of it.

I literally ignore 50-60% of all the potential reports because I perfectly understand what kind of strain that puts on the system. What I'm saying is maybe it's time I start reporting EVERY LITTLE THING I CAN because that's how bad it is right now. You guys might see those legit reports coming from 1 person as spam so that's the word I used to describe it... but in reality it would be sending a message that if ONE guy can generate such an enormous amount of reports on their own then you've got a MUCH bigger problem as a whole.

As a genuinely chaotic neutral individual I don't go about things in the cleanest way when trying to make points. Hell sometimes I'll even cut corners or look the other way if it suits my needs. IF I were to ever report every single legit infraction I come across tho... it would be a tidal wave. My post was fantasizing about doing it without actually doing it. Sometimes it's better to put it down in words so you can feel better and let it go for now. That's exactly what I did and had a delicious lunch instead.

So, what you're saying is, all you needed was a Snickers because you're not you when you're hungry? :)

I prefer red meat, but yes and that was quite the analogy. I approve! Like the incredible hulk my secret is that I'm always angry and this game tends to bring it out of me.

Also the very match I played after I wrote that post there was 1 gamethrower and 5 people I had to double report for harassment because they were a premade of trolls. There's a reason I need a lot of snickers bars... and that reason is the worst community I've encountered in over a decade thanks to Town of Salem.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by Bluewave41:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

I had to double report

I'm keeping logs of reports and the players involved with them and I can tell you those reports don't exist. You can't double report people as the server ignores it regardless of how you do it.

There are only 3 recent reports with you in them

1100038 supernagger11 Cure of Cancer - Spamming
1101515 AliensGhosts Samuel Parris - Gamethrowing
1101526 lockwoodx Its Not About U - Leaving name selection as SK

So I don't know where you got the idea of that working from but it doesn't.

If it doesn't work... you won't mind me saying then that you can report while in game for say "gamethrowing" then also report the "account" for the same person from the end lobby for "gamethrowing" which gets around the block they have set up in-game.

That's what I call a "double report."

edit: These issues are magnified on the weekends and quite frankly due to being ill for so long I've been playing too mych ToS during BAD TIMES such as the weekend when the worst of the worst is out there to agitate me. I just need to go chill in some rocket league or other fluff and stick to my routine of playing in the mornings as a mental exercise to help wake me up. ToS requires just enough thought that it's a blend of reading the sunday comics and doing a crossword puzzle at once.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by Bluewave41:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

If it doesn't work... you won't mind me saying then that you can report while in game for say "gamethrowing" then also report the "account" for the same person from the end lobby for "gamethrowing" which gets around the block they have set up in-game.

That's what I call a "double report."

Lobby reports are handled by Home.swf and in game reports are handled by TownOfSalem.swf and don't share information thus don't keep track of if you reported someone in the other.

Well crap. At least it puts more eyeballs on it... but reading how it goes to seperate parties makes me think of the old term where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.