So a witch just gamethrew us.

[Gorre]

But that's not the point, how did she know all the other 3 mafia members?! She made me kill mafioso and 2 blackmailers night after night. I call premade.

[Merevel]

Could be dumb luck. Deal with it. Until mafia quits backstabbing witches, players should have no right to whine if a witch stabs mafia in the back.

Mafia killing witches for no reason is why they game throw so often.

[Gorre]

Idk what're on about, I just started playing this game and when I was GF another time Witch actually helped. I even put "witch is power" on death note she still did it. I call premade. No way you can have dumb luck 3 in a row out of 12-10.

It was ranked practice, Classic seems to have friendlier people.

[Vandalay]

Originally posted by Merevel:

Could be dumb luck. Deal with it. Until mafia quits backstabbing witches, players should have no right to whine if a witch stabs mafia in the back.

Mafia killing witches for no reason is why they game throw so often.

Maybe we stop calling roles for gamethrowing and acknowledge it is PEOPLE who game-throw and backstab. People who could just as likely be any role the next game. Mafia is already enough of an autolose team without the baggage from the neutrals of what 3 completely unrelated people decided to do last game.

The jerk who threw you under the bus last game, is just as likely if not more likely to be town this game than mafia.

Attempt to work with the people who are supposed to be on your team, only trash the neutrals when it is clear they are working against you, or when the only reasonable option is to throw them over, but don't hold a grudge over someone who isn't even in the current game (and if that person is, isn't likely on the same side he/she was last game).

[Thundercracker]

dont forget, witches win with EVERYONE but town.

as a witch, if i find a vampire, im going to use the vamp to kill off the mafia (dont have to worry about vamps killing me as a witch, unlike mafia)

basically, if i find any other evil role, i will help thrm over mafia, because those roles are harder to win as. i'm also getting revenge for all those times i found a mafioso, told them "i'll leave you alone" and was killed for my trouble.

[LaughingButterCup]

So the witch knew the gf (since she can read roles) and she used him to attack people but by accident since there is no was that the witch would know who the other mafia are except when she controls then. This isn't gamethrow, its more being unlucky! Plus the witch might team with the nk as well!

[Vandalay]

Originally posted by LaughingButterCup:

So the witch knew the mafioso (since she can read roles) and she used him to attack people but by accident since there is no was that the witch would know who the other mafia are except when she controls then. This isn't gamethrow, its more being unlucky! Plus the witch might team with the nk as well!

Well it's not enough evidence, I would say it is more likely than not the witch knew the mafioso, or one of the BMers etc... and someone within town, and was intentionally setting up the mafia's loss. (IE got the names of all the mafia over skype from one player on mafia's side, then intentionally manuevered the GF into the rest of the mafia)

But that isn't convictable unless the witch player actually admitted so in chat

[LaughingButterCup]

Originally posted by Vandalay:

Originally posted by LaughingButterCup:

So the witch knew the mafioso (since she can read roles) and she used him to attack people but by accident since there is no was that the witch would know who the other mafia are except when she controls then. This isn't gamethrow, its more being unlucky! Plus the witch might team with the nk as well!

Well it's not enough evidence, I would say it is more likely than not the witch knew the mafioso, or one of the BMers etc... and someone within town, and was intentionally setting up the mafia's loss. (IE got the names of all the mafia over skype from one player on mafia's side, then intentionally manuevered the GF into the rest of the mafia)

But that isn't convictable unless the witch player actually admitted so in chat

You have no proof of that,at all unless the witch said this themselves. It is more likely that the witch just got unlucky and used the gf to attack the mafias by accident

EDIT: Plus a witch can help to kill mafia if the witch wants to win with the nk. No matter what its not gamethrowing, whether intentional or not!

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Vandalay:

Originally posted by LaughingButterCup:

So the witch knew the mafioso (since she can read roles) and she used him to attack people but by accident since there is no was that the witch would know who the other mafia are except when she controls then. This isn't gamethrow, its more being unlucky! Plus the witch might team with the nk as well!

Well it's not enough evidence, I would say it is more likely than not the witch knew the mafioso, or one of the BMers etc... and someone within town, and was intentionally setting up the mafia's loss. (IE got the names of all the mafia over skype from one player on mafia's side, then intentionally manuevered the GF into the rest of the mafia)

But that isn't convictable unless the witch player actually admitted so in chat

i've been kinda lucky like that before. that and scumreading.

i played a game recently as a witch. n1 i found a vampire and made him hit a mafia. the next 3 bites, he hit mafia. bite 4 was a townie, and i made that guy bite the last mafia.

it was then down to one town, one arso, and my two vamps. they hung arso, and i forced the last bite to win with the vamps.

i only found one mafia member in my off-bite nights, every other hit was dumb luck or scumreading.