Stop VFR! (Vote for Role)

[SooRude]

Ok so most of you know what VFR is, if you don't I will briefly explain this strategy.

VFR stands for vote for role. It is a strategy used by the town to get a quick, easy, win. What you do is you vote up everyone for their role and then once someone seems a little suspicious, they hang them.
This makes it almost impossible for the evil roles to win and i am always against VFR even when I am in Town.

VFR has made me want to stop playing ToS just because of how dumb it is.


My Experiences with VFR:

I was Serial Killer and day 2 they vote me up, I claim doctor because it is the only role that makes sense to claim, everyone just says "SK always claims doc" and I get hanged.

I was GF and day 2 they vote me up, I claim Sheriff with a very believable will, 3 voted innocent but 4 voted guilty just because they "didn't believe me" there was no other reason for me to be hanged.

I have had many more experiences with VFR but that is just a couple.




I would love for the devs to make a way to stop VFR or make it illegal just because how dumb it is.




If you are with me please post a comment explaining your experiences with VFR and why it should be eradicated from Town of Salem forever.

[Craig]

Ugly321: Hey lets vote for role
John; Okay
Corn: Lets start with Ugly321
John: Okay
Everyone else: I mean I guess
problem solved

[SooRude]

Originally posted by Craigosaurusflex:

Ugly321: Hey lets vote for role
John; Okay
Corn: Lets start with Ugly321
John: Okay
Everyone else: I mean I guess
problem solved :GlorkConcerned:

That's a good solution but sometimes it won't work

[Vandalay]

in general the person who initiates VFR, is prepared to go up himself. Played competently, town generally does not get hung, unless someone CCs or presents a claim of an invest result contradicting it. Of which, if you do that as evil, you'll be hung, shot by a vig or executed by jailor that night, if town has the numbers, your screwed.

That being said, VFR cannot be made illegal, because it's effectively only an amplified version of a necessary portion of the game. I mean what's the alternative, hypothetically both TI's die n1, is it just waiting for the evils to eventually win because you cannot demand a role without an invest result?

in most games, some extent or variation of VFR has to be used. I can agree that when nobody's died, it's day 2, no one has an invest result and someone demands people get put up, that is VFR, and then there's the other end, where it's clear that town is only 1 member up on evils, TI's are clearly dead. It's lynch or lose for town and nobody's claimed.

i think we can both agree that 1 is the obnoxious VFR, 2. is justified necesity. but there's a heck of a lot of grey area inbetween of which no 2 people will completely agree on defining a solid line.


so to the reality, the actual problem isn't VFR being used, but how fricking immidiately effective it is. the problem is the role list has waay to little claimspace, and half the roles can prove themselves. quick look over the role list here.

Jailor (ok yeah you die if you claim this)
TIx2 (decent, though also a smack in the face if the real one calls you out, and everyones claiming here)
TP (not bad, though only 1, smart town will lynch you if you are CCed, or maybe kill the real one, then execute you at night)
TS (all suicide to claim, unless you happen to be a consort in a spyless game, med is death if second med or ret, everything else has hugely detectable results)
TK (vig will probably CC you with a bullet to the face or vet will be very apparent after he shoots a townie and the will proves him)
RT (yay the one other claimspace, maybe we can convince them there's a 3rd TI)
NB (hahahahahahah)
any (yeah right)

the real problem is too many provable townies, and too few slots for evils to try and squeeze into.

[tamas.]

Originally posted by Craigosaurusflex:

Ugly321: Hey lets vote for role
John; Okay
Corn: Lets start with Ugly321
John: Okay
Everyone else: I mean I guess
problem solved :GlorkConcerned:

yeeah, saw this working for jesters one too many times before

[Vandalay]

Originally posted by nbc.:

Originally posted by Craigosaurusflex:

Ugly321: Hey lets vote for role
John; Okay
Corn: Lets start with Ugly321
John: Okay
Everyone else: I mean I guess
problem solved :GlorkConcerned:

yeeah, saw this working for jesters one too many times before

Townie who's VFRing to make town win, will claim his role on the spot the second it is implied towards him, jester will act angry when you push towards him and not claim.

[Lv1 Magikarp]

It goes both ways, people need to stop being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sheep and think for themselves instead of just going with what everyone else is doing or saying

"HANG X HE IS SUSP"
"Proof? What's your role?"
"I DONT NEED TO TELL YOU! VOTE HIM VOTE HIM"

X dies.

Pro tip: If you see some tosser spamming all in caps calling people out with no proof, don't be a sheep and follow him.