Torches were not something that were used for interior lighting in the Middle Ages.

[Ragnarök]

1 torch lasts about 45 minutes and you must light your castle hall for say... a third of the day. That's 11 torches or so per fitting, all over the place. Can you imagine the torch bill for just one day? Or how your eyes would be pouring from the smoke of the burning pitch?

You know what people used for lighting in the Middle Ages? Candles. No, not mounted to walls in corridors, but carrying them with them as they traversed to and fro. Even for exterior use torches were a rarity.

This post has nothing to do with slamming the game, but if the description touts historical accuracy then the devs must mind the details. Torches should be removed and replaced with candelabras and lanterns.

[Wardiaper]

They are going to have to add night first lol.

[Rutherford]

Why get rid of them completely? They existed then. And if people use them for interrior lighting, eh. If that's the worst that happens ahh well.

That's a bit too much into the "accuracy" department. Think what that mostly means is that we won't be seeing dragons or anything any time soon.

[Ragnarök]

Why get rid of them completely? Because they weren't used for architecture in the Middle Ages and they have two examples of things that were. More accuracy is better.

[Emerald Kithkin]

It is true that the media portrayal of the medieval times is a bit liberal and exaggerative, though it does not rule out the possibility of having and using them. They were often made of specific materials and doused in wax to expand their lifetimes and the amount of them in use would vary on the structure and its owner. They did have wall mounted brackets and they even had various types of oil/fat lamps as well. Candles were certainly the preferred method for traveling about in the dark and you'd keep your own at your bedside for whatever late night use you might have, but night guards would often carry torches about and place them in brackets as needed. Unlike modern electrical codes you kind of just went with what you needed. If a castle were under siege they may have more torches lit to speed up troop movement within the walls and to catch attackers breaking through or sneaking in.

[Rutherford]

...But they were used in the middle ages. Just not for interrior lighting as you said. However they were used.

"Later, torches were set in metal brackets, and some were used in the Tyrol right up to the 19th century. In Egypt, open lamps burning oil or fat, made of gold, bronze or clay, were already in use thousands of years ago. The first clay lamps were probably brought to Central Europe by the Roman legionaries, and there were even some very simple lamps in stone. "

Source: http://www.medievaltravel.co.uk/technology/medieval-technology-torches.html

They weren't always super costly either. A lot of time torches had an iron tip, which as this said were filled with oil or fat to burn---not always something like pitch which would be indeed more expensive.

So yes, more accuracy is better. They had to light their watch towers somehow, and a candle wouldn't provide with a good view distance at all.

[RayvenQ]

Originally posted by Ragnarök:

Why get rid of them completely? Because they weren't used for architecture in the Middle Ages and they have two examples of things that were. More accuracy is better.

Only when it doesn't stifle creativity or what you can do in the game. It's simple, keep the torches in the game, if you don't want to use them indoors because of historical accuracy reasons, then don't use them indoors. ME is not Medieval Life Simulator, so yeah, historical accuracy is good but it shouldn't also be forgotten that this is a game and so fun and creativity is also a major part of it. I'd rather have the option of being slightly anachronistic by being able to place torches where I want, than the possible aesthetics or creativity be stifled by having torches removed/limited to where you can put them.

[Xilo The Odd]

minecraft's torch is a lump of coal and a stick. lets talk about that.

[HerrSvenson]

burn some houses no problem.

[Roo_Serena]

One Simple Thing your Doing Nitpicking

[Ragnarök]

Originally posted by Doctor Ragnarok:

but night guards would often carry torches about and place them in brackets as needed. Unlike modern electrical codes you kind of just went with what you needed. If a castle were under siege they may have more torches lit to speed up troop movement within the walls and to catch attackers breaking through or sneaking in.

The best way for a watchman to keep watch at night is to simply let his eyes adjust to the darkness. Adding an intense, unfocused bright light would only deter your efforts by tricking your eyes with flickering shadows or even worse, causing night blindness by way of contrasting light levels. Moreover, it makes your own movements easier to see for anyone at a distance which is counterintuitive.

Originally posted by Rensin Redjaw:

...But they were used in the middle ages. Just not for interrior lighting as you said. However they were used.

Source: http://www.medievaltravel.co.uk/technology/medieval-technology-torches.html

I'd take what that site is saying with a heavy grain of salt. It offers no sources and makes some highly suspect claims. "These early (Celtic) miners held their torches in their mouths." This is absurd. Not only would it blind your vision, but it would burn your face. If you want to argue that they carried torches while mining that's one thing, but whoever wrote that was basing it on supposition as the Celts of that era left no written record. "When they lost their teeth, they were obliged to abandon their means of livelihood." Or... you know... you could just have the guy in front of you carry it and continue working.

Originally posted by RayvenQ:

Your opinion is reasonable.

Originally posted by C.Serena:

One Simple Thing your Doing Nitpicking

Thank you for contributing precisely nothing.

[Darkspace423]

lol the torch collecter is coming to take all your torches!