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Its been three months, have neither of you ever waited for a game release before? you're acting as if they've been radio silent for over a year... games take time to be made. its by no means unreasonable for a game to take 3-6 months after their initial announcement before they start releasing news, because the game needs time to be developed enough that they have news to release.
It's really not that hard to have a bit of patience, especially towards things that you are not entitled to in the first place.
This game is "supposed" to be developed, and manage by Pugstorm, were you around Core Keeper's early stages? Now compare those years against now. Just go take a look at their Steam forums and see how active they were since CK announcement.
We are not asking for nothing but being in touch. It's not about entitlement.
This game *IS* being developed and managed by Pugstorm, though i'm aware you're one of the individuals who has spread the baseless claim that its all Chucklefish in control.
Regardless of how they handled Core Keeper, they're working with an entirely different publisher, they're working on an entirely different game—of course there will be differences in how and when they communicate. You can ask for them to communicate as much as you like, but if you demand it, or start complaining that they aren't, then you're acting entitled.
Let me be clear, i'm not stating that you in particular are complaining or demanding, in that regard that's more a response to the individual above who expressed complaint and disappointment alongside the claim that they're going to be more cautious with buying the game as result. Though, i do point out, in bringing it up in a manner that comes off as complaining, you're also behaving in a somewhat entitled manner.
Saying they will be more cautious about the game because they have had no information about it since announcing it, is neither entitled, nor a bad response. There is a reason people are surprised by them having zero updates anywhere for anyone for this long, and that is because basically every game developer provides updates regarding development, because if they do not, they lose public eye and interest.
Being cautious about the game because they have no updates, is the opposite of entitled, it is the rational response.
What is entitled, and a very weird sense of entitlement, is to take issue with people having caution buying a game that has no information about it. I can see why a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dev might get entitled about consumers consuming their trash product they put no information out, but you're not even the dev, you're some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ on steam forums.
It is quite the steam forum classic, however, for some idiot to project their entitlement on others, which is exactly what you're doing.
You seem to misunderstand—I did not say that being cautious about a game is entitlement. My point was that demanding news updates and complaining about the lack of them is a form of entitlement.
Secondly, I don’t believe it’s rational to complain about a lack of news only three months after a game has been announced. If that complaint is the foundation of someone’s caution, then that caution isn’t entirely rational either, because it's based more on impatience than on actual issue—impatience that stems from the belief that they deserve updates sooner simply because they want them sooner, which is entitlement.
Can you please explain how it is that—given the definition of entitlement, being the belief that one is inherently deserving of something when they have done nothing to earn it—you think i am behaving in an entitled manner? because as far as i'm aware, all i'm doing is pointing out how i perceive someones complaints to be unreasonable based on what i consider to be fairly valid reasoning and rationale. And, as far as i'm aware, that doesn't fall under the definition of entitlement.
https://pugstorm.eu/
Whereas the one having it is Chucklefish.
https://chucklefish.org/
We can say, that's obvious, Chucklefish is their publisher, but like I said, if you go back to Pugstorm's history, they have always been very active with their games since their respective announcements.
I worked in a publishing agency, believe me when I said I know how publishers work. It is obvious that Chucklefish is in charge of everything related with publishing and dealing with the costumers.
My concern is not towards Pugstorm, is towards Cucklefish. A publisher that is known for treating their costumers awful.
Kyora is in fact on the official site, it simply does not have a large scale banner showcasing an announcement or launch trailer like the two other titles do. But even if it were not, that is not valid reason to believe that they don't have any control in the matter... Chucklefish having it on their site makes sense, because as far as I've seen, they have always put games they publish on their site.
And as i said, they're working with a different publisher than they've worked with in the past, there are going to be differences, those differences are not reason to believe that Pugstorm is not in control of their game.
The word is customer or consumer, not costumer. Unless you worked at Chucklefish, you cannot claim to have some insider knowledge into how they work. Regardless, yes, Chucklefish is in charge of things relating to publishing and talking to consumers, they are not in charge of developing or managing the game as you seem to believe based on prior statement.
If your concern is with Chucklefish, that’s fine, but it would be more reasonable to apply that concern when there’s actual evidence of wrongdoing. Three months of silence after an announcement trailer isn’t consumer mistreatment—it’s fairly standard industry practice, so your concern does not logically apply here.
Gonna give them maybe 3 more months until summer starts and then BYE BYE GAME (removing from wishlist).
No information, not a tiny clue or a tiny "This is what we're doing right now" is a total no go.
This could be the case for this game too, except for the information we already have.
We should instead of being impatient and pressure them, expect a long time and get excited when there is news at all. And before long, the game might suddenly be released!