regarding mumble mouth...

[MightyLad]

how do i "cure" it, exactly?

i did notice the physic upgrade in the skill menu that lets you amputate, i imagine thats related? i also tried sitting in fungicide for a bit, but no dice, so... yea ._.

[glass zebra]

Either keep following the main quest until you find a special NPC with a book or got to Kyakukya (mushroom village south of Grit Gate) and buy it from the major. You can also amputate, but then you have to invest a bit into growing that limb which also can be done following the main quest line.

[JellyPuff]

You need to find a copy of a book called "Corpus Choliys" The mayor of Kyakukya always sells one. It's also not too rare to find.

It contains instructions on curing diseases and fungal infections. These are partially randomized, which is why there isn't a magic bullet working for every save, except for amputation and some form of regeneration effect.

[MightyLad]

neat, so just find a book then? good thing i was on my way to grit gate anyway (if my memory is correct, at least). how do you even contract it though? i was walking through joppa or whatever its called, and it just kinda appeared. is it those fancy mushrooms in the rust wells? cause thats all i could think of that does it... im just lucky it wasn't the primary hand i guess.

[glass zebra]

Originally posted by Jason1527:

neat, so just find a book then? good thing i was on my way to grit gate anyway (if my memory is correct, at least). how do you even contract it though? i was walking through joppa or whatever its called, and it just kinda appeared. is it those fancy mushrooms in the rust wells? cause thats all i could think of that does it... im just lucky it wasn't the primary hand i guess.

You need to head further than Grit Gate to find that book and it is not just finding that book, but also the ingredients for the cure written in it.

Those big mushrooms puff spores around. If you get caught in them you get the "covered in spores" effect and there is a toughness save. If you fail it, you get the "itchy skin" effect. After a while that will give you a fungal infection (based on the fungus type that pufft on you) on a random limb. Generally avoid clouds of stuff.

[Coffee]

The wiki provides a couple potential cures for itchy skin. One other cure, which is a little more accessible, sort of, is an ubernostrum injector, which is expensive if you can find one for sale but you do get one from the starting watervine quest..

If anyone with wiki knowledge could add that itchy skin cure, it'd maybe be helpful for new players. I found fungal infections to be an outsized drag, partly because of the reputation hit (although maybe I did something additional to anger the impacted faction the one run where it went into the red zone). I think there should be an accessible, very expensive itchy skin cure in Joppa, since you get an inconvenient but reliable cure just a few quest steps after that. I think having it as an optional grind quest -- gather enough loot to have on hand for an expensive cure -- could be motivating. Oh, or maybe reward the self-funticide cure by having the fungicide swap the itchy skin with some respiratory disease that could be cured like normal diseases (such as through the passage of time).

[glass zebra]

Originally posted by Coffee:

The wiki provides a couple potential cures for itchy skin. One other cure, which is a little more accessible, sort of, is an ubernostrum injector, which is expensive if you can find one for sale but you do get one from the starting watervine quest..

If anyone with wiki knowledge could add that itchy skin cure, it'd maybe be helpful for new players. I found fungal infections to be an outsized drag, partly because of the reputation hit (although maybe I did something additional to anger the impacted faction the one run where it went into the red zone). I think there should be an accessible, very expensive itchy skin cure in Joppa, since you get an inconvenient but reliable cure just a few quest steps after that. I think having it as an optional grind quest -- gather enough loot to have on hand for an expensive cure -- could be motivating. Oh, or maybe reward the self-funticide cure by having the fungicide swap the itchy skin with some respiratory disease that could be cured like normal diseases (such as through the passage of time).

The itchy skin effect itself is much easier to cure than using an ubernosturm. Sleeping in a hyperbiotic bed (free in Grit Gate) or any food effect that cures minor effects (e.g. from congealed salve or star apple jam) is very accessible. Ubernosturms are somewhat rare and restore limbs and their food effects can cure major effects and are probably best kept for such cases.

OP however already has the fully grown fungus and needs to use the cure.. or amputate their limb and use that ubernosturm afterwards.

[Coffee]

I wouldn't call either of those accessible necessarily: In my current run, Grit Gate is locked behind security doors and I'm wandering doing other things until I find a jackhammer or bananas. I've never had success cooking it away before it developed into a fungus, not until I've gotten carbide chef, which is a bit of an investment. Maybe I've just had bad luck with the cooking rolls.

By the way, if there should be a key I can find for Grit Gate, let me know? I got there in a couple prior runs but maybe I got the key or something without noticing... I think I've scoured the area pretty well without finding a key, but who knows.

[glass zebra]

Did you look the door to Mafeo? That does not open up with a key again.
Sounds like you've been super unlucky with cooking. You can cook 3 times before you need to get hungry again and with only 2 ingredients you have a pretty decent chance to get that effect. Carbide chef does indeed help a lot. Star apples + watervine wafers are rather common ingredients that you can basically have before you even leave Joppa.

[Coffee]

Yeah I didn't know you could cook multiple times..... ha.

The stairs down to the strata/area with the lobby seem to be locked behind doors, so I guess I just got an unlucky map. It's a nice challenge though, forces me to go sideways for a while.

[glass zebra]

Originally posted by Coffee:

Yeah I didn't know you could cook multiple times..... ha.

The stairs down to the strata/area with the lobby seem to be locked behind doors, so I guess I just got an unlucky map. It's a nice challenge though, forces me to go sideways for a while.

Oh you can not even get to the entrance.. well any ways to destroy walls should help you.

[MightyLad]

oh, btw the character i had an issue with died shortly after trying to find the village south of grit gate, which i did not find, unless it was that goatfolk village that i believe beat the crap out of me...

funnily enough, i had actually found a set of helping hands shortly after getting mumble mouth, so really it wasnt too bad to deal with (wouldve sucked otherwise though, since i was playing a true kin Praetorian). still, it will be nice knowing all this in case something like it happens again, which knowing roguelikes, it inevitably will. XD

[glass zebra]

Originally posted by Jason1527:

oh, btw the character i had an issue with died shortly after trying to find the village south of grit gate, which i did not find, unless it was that goatfolk village that i believe beat the crap out of me...

Like Grit Gate and all other static villages, you can see it on the map. It looks like a few red mushrooms. It is more south south east of Grit Gate and behind the water.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Jason1527:

neat, so just find a book then? good thing i was on my way to grit gate anyway (if my memory is correct, at least). how do you even contract it though? i was walking through joppa or whatever its called, and it just kinda appeared. is it those fancy mushrooms in the rust wells? cause thats all i could think of that does it... im just lucky it wasn't the primary hand i guess.

Mushroom locations are not set in stone outside of the rainbow wood. If you aren't friendly with mushrooms, they will blow spores on you if you go within 1 tile

You can eat the meal from Kyuyakku to get a reduction that this turns into an infection, but it doesn't always work.

Also, you can swap which hand is primary with the insert key.

[MightyLad]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Also, you can swap which hand is primary with the insert key.

damn, really? wish i knew that sooner! i wonder why it starts random though...

[Pixel Peeper]

Originally posted by Jason1527:

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Also, you can swap which hand is primary with the insert key.

damn, really? wish i knew that sooner! i wonder why it starts random though...

Well, even in real life it's random. Though the odds of someone being left-handed is only about 12%, while in the game it looks to be 50%.