Lost in underground

[FFace]

I spent one day getting from level 5 to 1 and now spent another day just finding those darn upstairs. Why isn't there any? I have found only several downstairs. I know, don't go there without a recoiler. I kind of lost on my way back to Joppa and next thing to do was Rust Wells:) Well, got a bunch of levels and a sore wrist already, can't complain.

[CHOO CHOO]

One way I've read of was to just go as far north as you can, then west. You'll hit the asphalt mines eventually.

[FFace]

Ok, have to try that. Not ready to cheat yet :) Thanks.

Is this rarity because the entrance to underground is always related to special locations? Too many random access would ruin something? Because if not, I can't see why there couldn' t be more of these. Underground is fun with all those corpses etc.

[CHOO CHOO]

There are occasional accessways, and not just those in special locations.

[FFace]

Ok, good to know. Thanks.

[THANKS OBAMA]

This is why you aren't supposed to go spelunking until you have a recoiler.

[davidb11]

Yeah, getting lost is annoying.
THe good news, if you have Burrowing Claws, getting to a staircase is a bit easier.
And if you activated the prelease content/unfinished content section in the Debug section, Burrowing Claws gets the ability to make Upstairs and Downstairs on the fly.

Why that is unfinished/Prelease I don't know, but probably because of how overpowered that is. :P

[dbennett88]

would be a cool expansion to the willpower tree, IMO -- "cave knowledge". "you sense an opening in the rock to the northwest".

[FFace]

Originally posted by loubre:

This is why you aren't supposed to go spelunking until you have a recoiler.

I know and thought about it when I entered there, that makes me even more angry at myself :)

Originally posted by theskinsurf:

would be a cool expansion to the willpower tree, IMO -- "cave knowledge". "you sense an opening in the rock to the northwest".

Sounds something I could spend my skill points, I second this. Recoilers kind of spoils this but sometimes you might want to keep exploring and also there could be places where recoilers are jammed? I once entered a room where my torch was lit but no light, a bug or intended, maybe hallucination because I have wondered there way too long for now...

[CHOO CHOO]

I just want a Re-Recoiler so I can recoil home, drop my loot, and go right back to where I was.

Having to retrace my steps is annoying D:

[FFace]

Originally posted by CHOO CHOO:

I just want a Re-Recoiler so I can recoil home, drop my loot, and go right back to where I was.

Having to retrace my steps is annoying D:

That would be pretty sweet. Great item idea to add devs to-do-list.

[pyatr]

Originally posted by FFace:

Originally posted by CHOO CHOO:

I just want a Re-Recoiler so I can recoil home, drop my loot, and go right back to where I was.

Having to retrace my steps is annoying D:

That would be pretty sweet. Great item idea to add devs to-do-list.

Actually, that would make the gameplay even more primitive. I think recoilers should be cancelled at all.

[CHOO CHOO]

The only difference between recoilers and no-recoilers gameplay is whether or not you actually have to write down which map transitions you passed through. It's just more effort, not an actual change to gameplay.

[FFace]

Some tracking system would be nice, other than CHOO CHOO's pen and paper method :) Quds version of GPS, with this device on you could track your earlier movements? I think I have seen few more crazier inventions than this...

[Kaaven]

The Re-Recoilers would make it way too easy - right now, while the normal Recoilers save you time on getting back, you still have to plan what to pick up and which loot is better (daggers>maces) to carry around. Player would be swimming in money (literally, in this case :) very quickly if it was possible to teleport at will and they would have to change Recoilers to be way more expensive in use to balance that...

[davidb11]

Yeah, the only heavy weapons worth carrying at all are carbide+ gear. Carbide Hammers aren't that heavy, and really, Fullerite weapons are the only really heavy weapons. :P