The adult content DLCs cost MONEY?

[Ein]

I bought Nekopara Vol 0,1,2 and 3 two years ago when there were no 18+ DLCs for them and there was no way to play this game like it was meant to be played normally. There were no patches online except parts ripped out of the 18+ version from some site which were probably not approved by the developer.

Guess what, time passed, good news! They got on steam. Oh wait, what? They cost money?
Why the ♥♥♥♥ would anyone buy this game without the hentai in it, to see jiggle physics on the catgirls and follow this cliche story? I cannot express how much of a bruh moment this is. I already paid the price and bought the legal copies of all those 4 games and I still have to pay for the essence of the games themselves?

Why?

[Inari]

There have been threads about this, you know.

You have 2 options:

You buy the full game (not on steam), it has the R18 content, you pay 20 USD. (unless it's discounted or something)

or

You buy the steam game, it doesn't have the R18 content, and you pay 10 USD. Then you buy the R18 patch for 10 USD. So again, you're at 20 USD.

Thus, you have not "already paid the price".

[Ryuu]

Yes, they cost money because on other platforms where 18+ content is included the game costs more.

Well, for some the story is wholesome enough :)

[Ein]

i'm pretty sure the game was full price when i bought it. It was at sale but it still counts.
Didn't they take down from the price when adding the adult DLC was possible?

[Ryuu]

Originally posted by EinMeister:

i'm pretty sure the game was full price when i bought it. It was at sale but it still counts.
Didn't they take down from the price when adding the adult DLC was possible?

It was not officially possible.

The price has not changed: https://steamdb.info/app/333600/
DLC is currently on sale btw.

[fllthdcrb]

Originally posted by EinMeister:

I bought Nekopara Vol 0,1,2 and 3 two years ago when there were no 18+ DLCs for them

Not possible. Vol. 2 already had an official DLC for it on day 1. It just wasn't on Steam, since they couldn't put it here. Vol. 1 didn't have the DLC for a while. I never understood why they waited, but they did create one later; in fact, it was already out by the time Vol. 3 was released. So, if you bought all of these at the same time, the last part of your statement is completely false.

and there was no way to play this game like it was meant to be played normally.

Well, other than...you know... buying non-Steam.

There were no patches online except parts ripped out of the 18+ version from some site which were probably not approved by the developer.

Again, false. I'm going to assume you just didn't know that you could go on Denpasoft or DLsite and buy the DLCs (or the full versions) there totally legally. But that then raises the question: why didn't you ask anyone? There are numerous threads here on Steam Community where people, including myself, have pointed others to where they can get the full versions and DLCs.

Or maybe you didn't know the 18+ content even existed, which is fair enough. We have to blame that one on Steam. Not only did they not allow 18+ content (for the most part), but they also didn't even allow developers/publishers to talk about it on Steam. They actually forced them to stop posting links to 18+ patches and DLCs. If not for that, I imagine NEKO WORKs and Sekai Project would have said something. That one is not their fault.

But wait... what's this? "Buying this game on steam will give you a censored version. If you want the hentai scenes you should either install a mod for them or buy the game from their japanese website." That's from your review back in 2018. So, you did know about official DLCs, albeit not on the sites I mentioned. (They've since removed this stuff from the BOOTH site you linked to, but the others have them.) Did you forget, or what?

They cost money?

Long (e.g. half-hour), animated H-scenes that were cut out, being worth money? Imagine that.

Why the ♥♥♥♥ would anyone buy this game without the hentai in it, to see jiggle physics on the catgirls and follow this cliche story?

Among other things. Sure, the story is cliché, but not everyone cares. You can find a number of LPs on the censored versions. Me, I prefer it not being censored, but that doesn't mean I only like it for the H-scenes.

I already paid the price

If you mean for the Steam versions, then no. You paid half the price. Or, let's be fair, you may well have got it for less than half, since stuff on Steam is frequently on sale, and of course it's normal to take advantage of that. But setting that aside, the DLCs have always been priced so that you end up paying for the difference in price between the full and Steam versions if you didn't buy from a sale. You think it's not fair to pay the regular price for all of the content?

The only thing I might concede here is that maybe half isn't the right discount. Maybe it should be less than half, since the 18+ content isn't half the content.

If you mean you already acquired the DLCs and now you'd have to pay for them again to have them on Steam, well, not a lot can be done about that. I've heard that Steam keys used to be provided sometimes when you bought non-Steam versions of things, but there was fraud around that. I don't know the details, though.

and bought the legal copies of all those 4 games

(Just let me point out: Vol. 0 has no 18+ content at all, so there's no need to include it in this argument.)

and I still have to pay for the essence of the games themselves?

Well, if the 18+ content is the "essence" according to you, then maybe the Steam version should be discounted even more? Then you'd be paying a greater percentage for the DLCs. This is the opposite of what I think it should be, but okay. Also, if you feel this way, then—setting aside the amounts—why complain about paying money for it? You're not making a lot of sense here.

BTW, I was going to throw your question about buying this without the 18+ content back at you, since you gave the impression you did exactly that; if you didn't know, that's the only possibility. Instead, it seems you may have gotten the DLCs after all. So why are you only complaining now about the DLCs not being free, when you didn't 2 years ago?

[fllthdcrb]

Originally posted by EinMeister:

i'm pretty sure the game was full price when i bought it. It was at sale but it still counts.
Didn't they take down from the price when adding the adult DLC was possible?

The full version was always $20, and the Steam version $10 when not on sale. The only "take down" in price has been for sales. The regular price on Steam is still $10.

[Ein]

I am surprised and thankful on how much you care about my rant to write that, i wish i had this kind of motivation in life. For that I will give you the benefit of the doubt and won't continue this argument because apparently arguments are valid only when at least a side knows the full information on a topic and clearly none of us does, you can't know everything about anything since some stuff is just not released, explained and words can't describe everything.

Thanks

[fllthdcrb]

Originally posted by EinMeister:

apparently arguments are valid only when at least a side knows the full information on a topic and clearly none of us does, you can't know everything about anything since some stuff is just not released, explained and words can't describe everything.

If something I said about you is mistaken, just say so. But it looks to me like you contradicted yourself, saying there were no official DLCs when you bought the games, even though you admitted to knowing about them in your own review. That, and your confusing logic in places.

[Ein]

Originally posted by fllthdcrb:

Originally posted by EinMeister:

apparently arguments are valid only when at least a side knows the full information on a topic and clearly none of us does, you can't know everything about anything since some stuff is just not released, explained and words can't describe everything.

If something I said about you is mistaken, just say so. But it looks to me like you contradicted yourself, saying there were no official DLCs when you bought the games, even though you admitted to knowing about them in your own review. That, and your confusing logic in places.

I am 100% sure there were no official DLCs on steam when i bought the bundle because it was not allowed yet and the source where I asked said that the patches don't sell alone and to access them I must buy the game again on their site.

I knew about them, i just took them from... the t worded app

[fllthdcrb]

Originally posted by EinMeister:

I am 100% sure there were no official DLCs on steam when i bought the bundle

This is true. But you did not make this qualification at the start. Well, to be fair, maybe you were only thinking of Steam when you said, "DLC". But it's not only on Steam that they are called that.

the source where I asked said that the patches don't sell alone and to access them I must buy the game again on their site.

I knew about them, i just took them from... the t worded app

The official DLCs were made specifically for the Steam versions, so if you had acquired those, you would only have had to pay, at most, $20 total per volume (other than 0), same as the full version. It's true that in the past, there was a procedure of getting both the Steam and full versions, and then transferring files over to "convert" the Steam version. In reality, there was no point in even getting the Steam version in such a case, as it was the same as just adding the full version in the Steam client as a non-Steam game. Because you had to replace even the executable, you couldn't even use Steam features like achievements, cards, etc. One could have gotten integration, except there was an incompatibility between the versions' files, for technical reasons (character encoding difference, apparently).

If your source said this applied to the official DLC, then I'm pretty sure they were wrong. That, or you misunderstood.

One thing that may be relevant: at some point, the Steam versions were updated, in an attempt to prevent unauthorized patches. But I'm not sure how this fits in. You wouldn't have to buy the Steam version again just for this reason. All it would mean is that you would be made to buy the official DLC if you hadn't already. If you already had, then you should have been allowed to get the update without paying again, although this wasn't always the case (Denpasoft, for instance, went through an overhaul at one point that invalidated old download links, which were sent by email. That happened with at least one thing I bought from them).