Best nation for long peace time or million res games?

[WildMoon]

Which nation would be good for long peace time or millio res games, would want to know atleast 3 diffrent nations.

[Armored Baron]

I think arguing is pointless. Having an actual video of a game will prove a point perhaps.

That is, if both players are equally matched in terms of skill.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Seba123400:

i can win vs everyone on milion with prussia, add me on steam and we play :d

That doesn't have much to do with nations as much as you being a really good player if this is true. That wasn't the case.

Originally posted by ◣╬◢ A. Soldier:

I think arguing is pointless. Having an actual video of a game will prove a point perhaps.

That is, if both players are equally matched in terms of skill.

Yeah, I agree. Or if someone makes a video of these Serdiuks vs an equal amount of 18th century musketeers all fully upgraded and see who comes out on top.

[Seba123400]

Yea but i can win only with prussia ... with ukraine or other nation i'll lose 100% with good player

[Mr_Cossack]

Prussia's 18thc Muskets can beat Ukraines and you can also out produce ukraine on units in total. Prussia is the best nation for late game with millions of resources and peace time.

[Mag]

For me, the ukr nation is very powerfull, but it's really hard for me to create a big army cause it takes so muuuuuuuuuch time :o

[GayBriel Angelos]

From reading these comments its pretty obvious barely anyone here has any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue about what they are talking about

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Tuan mac Cairill:

From reading these comments its pretty obvious barely anyone here has any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue about what they are talking about

Then instead of being a condecending prick, share your views. All the strengths talked about are accurate, the only difference is that views differ on what the better nation is between Ukraine and Prussia.

So, share your views, mighty one.

[Quevedo]

Any nation with outstanding units in the 18th century. If you can have at least 2 18th century barracks 20 minutes before war starts, the Prussian musketeer is a very powerful unit. Also, Prussian hussars (fast light cavalry) are created faster. Prussia might perform well.

[GayBriel Angelos]

Originally posted by Quevedo:

Any nation with outstanding units in the 18th century. If you can have at least 2 18th century barracks 20 minutes before war starts, the Prussian musketeer is a very powerful unit. Also, Prussian hussars (fast light cavalry) are created faster. Prussia might perform well.

France/Austria are good candidates however the train time on the Pandur leaves alot to be desired. the Croat fast cav are easy to amass and do relativley well. france however has the fastest training 18th cent dragoons who lack the DMG of other 18th cent dragoons however combined with chasseurs they do pretty well. Ukraine gets too much attention from people who forget that the serdiuk in reality doesnt do that much more DMG than a Pandur/Chasseur or even higlander once they have all the academy and barracks upgrades. Prussia tends to be way to gold heavy for mass Muskets its like 240 for 1 guy compared to like 45 food and 3-4? iron for highlanders

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by Tuan mac Cairill:

Originally posted by Quevedo:

Any nation with outstanding units in the 18th century. If you can have at least 2 18th century barracks 20 minutes before war starts, the Prussian musketeer is a very powerful unit. Also, Prussian hussars (fast light cavalry) are created faster. Prussia might perform well.

France/Austria are good candidates however the train time on the Pandur leaves alot to be desired. the Croat fast cav are easy to amass and do relativley well. france however has the fastest training 18th cent dragoons who lack the DMG of other 18th cent dragoons however combined with chasseurs they do pretty well. Ukraine gets too much attention from people who forget that the serdiuk in reality doesnt do that much more DMG than a Pandur/Chasseur or even higlander once they have all the academy and barracks upgrades. Prussia tends to be way to gold heavy for mass Muskets its like 240 for 1 guy compared to like 45 food and 3-4? iron for highlanders

But the price of the musketeers doesn't material in "one million resources game"?

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Tuan mac Cairill:

Originally posted by Quevedo:

Any nation with outstanding units in the 18th century. If you can have at least 2 18th century barracks 20 minutes before war starts, the Prussian musketeer is a very powerful unit. Also, Prussian hussars (fast light cavalry) are created faster. Prussia might perform well.

France/Austria are good candidates however the train time on the Pandur leaves alot to be desired. the Croat fast cav are easy to amass and do relativley well. france however has the fastest training 18th cent dragoons who lack the DMG of other 18th cent dragoons however combined with chasseurs they do pretty well. Ukraine gets too much attention from people who forget that the serdiuk in reality doesnt do that much more DMG than a Pandur/Chasseur or even higlander once they have all the academy and barracks upgrades. Prussia tends to be way to gold heavy for mass Muskets its like 240 for 1 guy compared to like 45 food and 3-4? iron for highlanders

No, but the Serdiuk does shoot almost twice as fast compared to other musket units, which makes them incredibly ridiculous together with that insane strength they have for a 17th cen unit.

[GayBriel Angelos]

Originally posted by Inférnum~:

Originally posted by Tuan mac Cairill:

France/Austria are good candidates however the train time on the Pandur leaves alot to be desired. the Croat fast cav are easy to amass and do relativley well. france however has the fastest training 18th cent dragoons who lack the DMG of other 18th cent dragoons however combined with chasseurs they do pretty well. Ukraine gets too much attention from people who forget that the serdiuk in reality doesnt do that much more DMG than a Pandur/Chasseur or even higlander once they have all the academy and barracks upgrades. Prussia tends to be way to gold heavy for mass Muskets its like 240 for 1 guy compared to like 45 food and 3-4? iron for highlanders

No, but the Serdiuk does shoot almost twice as fast compared to other musket units, which makes them incredibly ridiculous together with that insane strength they have for a 17th cen unit.

Yeah but also takes almost 3X The time to train also so smaller amounts of faster shooting units however in PT games not so much and issue since you can amass serdiuks from your first cossack house in the game instead of having to get to 18th cent to even begin recruiting

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Tuan mac Cairill:

Originally posted by Inférnum~:

No, but the Serdiuk does shoot almost twice as fast compared to other musket units, which makes them incredibly ridiculous together with that insane strength they have for a 17th cen unit.

Yeah but also takes almost 3X The time to train also so smaller amounts of faster shooting units however in PT games not so much and issue since you can amass serdiuks from your first cossack house in the game instead of having to get to 18th cent to even begin recruiting

I think in comparison to Prussia, it's not 3x the time to train, since the training time for those 18th musketeers are also 2x the time to train in comparison to regular ones.

Not sure which is faster between those two, but I don't think it matters too much.

[Tesla]

Ukraine is good but too slow to produce

[Porki]

Originally posted by Inférnum~:

Originally posted by Tuan mac Cairill:

France/Austria are good candidates however the train time on the Pandur leaves alot to be desired. the Croat fast cav are easy to amass and do relativley well. france however has the fastest training 18th cent dragoons who lack the DMG of other 18th cent dragoons however combined with chasseurs they do pretty well. Ukraine gets too much attention from people who forget that the serdiuk in reality doesnt do that much more DMG than a Pandur/Chasseur or even higlander once they have all the academy and barracks upgrades. Prussia tends to be way to gold heavy for mass Muskets its like 240 for 1 guy compared to like 45 food and 3-4? iron for highlanders

No, but the Serdiuk does shoot almost twice as fast compared to other musket units, which makes them incredibly ridiculous together with that insane strength they have for a 17th cen unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdZTmsxzpw&feature=youtu.be
All upgrades.