Netherland 17th Century Musketeers defeating Ukrainian Serdicks?

[Armored Baron]

I just made a test in the editor, pitting 11 Serdicks vs 11 Netherland 17C Muskets and the Muskets won.

Can anyone else confirm?

Just note that it's without upgrades, so I am not so sure how this would play out in a real game, as in pitting the same number of units against each other.

I'm just interested if those 17C Muskets are the only 17th Century units that can win in a fair 1v1 with the Serdicks.

[Bill]

Tried it 11 v 11 and 1 v 1 and Serdiuks won with ease, the Spanish muskets are able to defeat Serdiuks because they have some bullet protection

[Heranara]

The dutch muskets has increased attack speed. not sure by how many %.

[Armored Baron]

Publicado originalmente por Bill:

Tried it 11 v 11 and 1 v 1 and Serdiuks won with ease, the Spanish muskets are able to defeat Serdiuks because they have some bullet protection

Huh, must have been me then. Well thanks for clarifying.

[Setakat]

There is a 4% (IIRC) instant kill chance, and the Dutch Musketeers with their higher fire rate means more chances of an instant kill. Get a few lucky RNG rolls and the battle can swing the other way.

[Armored Baron]

Publicado originalmente por Setakat:

There is a 4% (IIRC) instant kill chance, and the Dutch Musketeers with their higher fire rate means more chances of an instant kill. Get a few lucky RNG rolls and the battle can swing the other way.

Right, forgot about that. Thanks.

[Vlidmir Putan]

yeah I remember that freature being exploited as netherlands in cossacks btw, just get the fast firing upgrades for the muskets and its gg

[The Punisher]

We can all agree that the Dutch 17thc musketeers have the highest, or one of the highest, attack speeds in the game. Does this also apply with the Dutch 18thc musketeers?

[Captured Joe]

As far as I can see dutch 18th century musketeers are unremarkable.

[Armored Baron]

Publicado originalmente por Winner:

We can all agree that the Dutch 17thc musketeers have the highest, or one of the highest, attack speeds in the game. Does this also apply with the Dutch 18thc musketeers?

Nope, their only unique units are their 17C Muskets and 18C Dragoons wearing a black uniform.

Publicado originalmente por Captured Joe:

As far as I can see dutch 18th century musketeers are unremarkable.

You mean 17C, the Danish Grenadiers and 18C Muskets are the best in the game, I even tested them against Prussian 18C Muskets, they beat em with half the men standing.

[Captured Joe]

Publicado originalmente por A. Soldier:

Publicado originalmente por Captured Joe:

As far as I can see dutch 18th century musketeers are unremarkable.

You mean 17C, the Danish Grenadiers and 18C Muskets are the best in the game, I even tested them against Prussian 18C Muskets, they beat em with half the men standing.

No I mean 18c DUTCH musketeers.

[Wormeur]

Well even if Dutch muskets beat serdiuks, Urkaine isn't scary at 0 upgrades ...
Even in 20 pt you can already have at least 2 attack upgrade and both attack speed upgrades.
So yeah ... i''m not sure this is relevant

And this is not taking in to account the fact that ukraine will produce out of 6 barracks when you'll have only 2

[Cherebuschka]

With micro management 11 dutch musketeer can win but it become impossible to do once the number grew up. But most of the time they will lose.