Ukraine is ruining this game

[StierlitZ]

17th century : Sich cossack spam that will burn your entire city
18th century : Fully upgraded serdiuks with the longest range in game, also sich cossack spam

Why are the game devs so stupid and cannot balance this Faction that is single-handedly ruining gameplay?? Literally every game I play where there is ukraine it steamrolls everything.

[Keviin Sorbo]

take a wild guess where the game studio is located?

[Armored Baron]

Originally posted by Revenge of Rokossovsky:

Originally posted by Jack Bauer:

take a wild guess where the game studio is located?

Yeah I know GSC is ukranian, making ukraine OP in this game is their way to cope with losing crimea

Oh, and what are War Gaming and Gaijin coping with in order for them to make Russia OP in their games?

[Cherebuschka]

Ukraine was made following what it was in Cossacks 1, it is indeed strong in mid and late game but need a good player to survive early (or a passive opponent), the balance is coming but it take time.

[SpееdBяедкея]

to build one serdiuks you need 18-19sec. this isnt op

[Scourge012]

Once again--don't be passive, don't play long PT games. Any semblance of balance goes out the window if you can't attack for 20 or more minutes.

[polymath]

Originally posted by Revenge of Rokossovsky:

Originally posted by Jack Bauer:

take a wild guess where the game studio is located?

Yeah I know GSC is ukranian, making ukraine OP in this game is their way to cope with losing crimea

Nah, Ukraine was OP in Cossacks 1 as well. Current politics are reflected in the way how Ukraine is always allied/part of Polald in C3, while in C1 Ukrainian campaign is about rebelling against Poland.

[Armored Baron]

Originally posted by polymath:

Originally posted by Revenge of Rokossovsky:

Yeah I know GSC is ukranian, making ukraine OP in this game is their way to cope with losing crimea

Nah, Ukraine was OP in Cossacks 1 as well. Current politics are reflected in the way how Ukraine is always allied/part of Polald in C3, while in C1 Ukrainian campaign is about rebelling against Poland.

You do realize that the game is based around historical events, and not politics, right?

Of course Ukraine being OP is just national bias but eh, I have more trouble Winged Hussars and Poland than the Ukraine.

[Milkman]

Ukriane was the first nation to receive a nerf in Cossacks 3. With all the different starting options you can tailor to game to suit playing with ukriane or tailor it to make ukraine underwhelming. They have 1 obvious weakness and that is the lack of armored units. Just play with art and set the no diplo option on. Just spam massive amounts of multibarreled cannons and you will have a good chance of beating ukraine.

or

Play with 0 pt on an island with the no diplo option and you can just do a pikespam to overwhelm them :)

[Auriman]

I think what at the moment makes Ukraine so powerful is that both of its units are too good, even after nerf. Register cossacks are simply too powerful with tandem with already superior serdiuks. Decreasing their combat abilities or increasing their building time slightly would solve the issue imo.

[Ferox]

Originally posted by polymath:

Current politics are reflected in the way how Ukraine is always allied/part of Polald in C3, while in C1 Ukrainian campaign is about rebelling against Poland.

This is not true, we are simply using different historical events this time. Our main is not to send some political message or make a statement, but to entertain the player. We have a lot of missions where the Russians are victorious and badass as hell. It's about fun :)

And I have a request: please don't bring politics to the video game forums, because if the discussion will get too heated I will be forced to take action.

[Aven]

Ukraine Serdiuks got hard Nerf in Cossacks 3. If you know there weekness you can easily beat them. Ukraine is very very strong in late game so yeah if you can't beat them early or play 45min pt games you shouldn't think about killing them easily ;)

Ukraine can't build walls and towers btw so they are really open. Try to use mountains and don't attack them when they stand on it. The easiest way to kill ukraine (with no diplomacy center available) is:

- Only play games with a maximum of 20pt and attack them instantly when pt is over
- Build up fast horses like the sich/kroats (austria).
- Upgrade your horses with aditional armor and attack from Blacksmith/Academy
- Attack them from frontlane with your infantry and use your fast horses to attack them from side too and run directly to the serdiuks. Easy win and work every time when you aren't a bad player and understand basics of economy in this game.

For mid game you can use artillery. Multi-barrelled Cannons are very good against 17th nations like ukraine, turkey, algeria and so on.



I often play 2vs2 matches with a friend. I play Ukraine, he playes Austria. I told him everything about weakness. And do you know what? After 20minutes pt (5k ressources, no diplomacy center, expensive artillery we often play) he kills ukraine enemy easily directly after pt is over AND run to the second enemy too after if he didn't attacked me. In 70% of all cases he beat him too so I (ukraine) didn't have to do anything within first 20 minutes. ;) If you understand how the nation work you can counter pick nations or have to play in another way maybe. Knowing strengths and weakness of every nation is key.

[ArcaniteM]

I wish they made serdiuks have the same range as other units.
That big ass range is pure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
If you are playing a no artilery game its game over.

[Auriman]

Roundshiers, fast cav, dragoons, early attack, guards at base etc. Ukraine is gay but not invincible.