Development Update: Progress Report April 6, 2025 ? 17:004(JST)

[miharasan@arika]

Development Update: Progress Report April 6, 2025 ? 17:04(JST)

We are currently working on the following items:

Investigating startup freeze issues, including collecting sample cases and reviewing user-submitted information (highest priority)

Verifying how other games implement keyboard binding systems (highest priority)

Reviewing feedback regarding control feel and usability (mid- to long-term task)

Considering changes to the current system where score rankings are reset with each update (long-term task)

Planning WHD (widescreen) support (mid-term task)

Implementing the KAMUI command (long-term task)

We plan to share a progress report by 6:00 PM tomorrow (Monday, JST),
along with a separate explanation of the development concept and its background.

Here is a summary of recent user-reported findings regarding bugs and issues:

Installing DirectX 9 seems to allow the game to launch (confirmed)
English: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35

If using WHD display output, setting the aspect ratio to 16:9 helps (confirmed)

Suspected issue on systems without AVX2 support (under investigation)

Switching to an external display allows the game to launch (under investigation)

Thank you all for your continued feedback and support.



開発報告：進捗報告 2025/04/06 17:04

現在、以下の作業を行っております。

・起動時の停止問題に関するサンプル集めや、提供しただいた情報を確認しています。（最優先案件）
・キーボードバインドの他ゲームでの利用方法の確認（最優先案件）
・操作性に関するご意見の検討（中長期案件）
・アップデート毎にスコアランキングがリセットせざるを得ない現状の仕様変更検討（長期案件）
・WHD対応（中期案件）
・KAMUIコマンド実装（長期案件）

明日、月曜日の18時を目途に進捗報告と、それとは別に開発コンセプト経緯説明をさせていただきます。


ユーザの皆様からいただいた不具合に関する情報です。

・DX9をインストールすると起動する様になった（確認）
　英語：https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35

・WHD画面で出力する場合は画面比率を16：9にするとよい（確認）

・AVX2非対応で障害が発生するのではないか？（確認中）

・外部出力に切り替えると起動する様になった（確認中）

[Jib]

Thank you for all your hard work in making this game the best it can be! Excited to see these changes when they're finished, please take your time!

[Sereosh]

Thank you I have a suggestion: a setting to change the location of the NEXT piece, to have it positioned where it is in TGM1, 2 and 3 (top, center, aligned where the piece falls). I don't know if it was considered.

[zaphod]

note that the minimum intel cpu requirements listed does support AVX2. for AMD Excavator and newer desktop and laptop cpus should handle the game properly, and have enough cpu power. i have an excavator laptop i intend to test on.

[Yobbo]

Thank you Mihara-san! Its been so heartwarming to see the passion put into the game along with the feedback taken from the overseas communities so swiftly to make a better game.
TGM4EVER!

[macyayaya]

Sereosh a écrit :

Thank you I have a suggestion: a setting to change the location of the NEXT piece, to have it positioned where it is in TGM1, 2 and 3 (top, center, aligned where the piece falls). I don't know if it was considered.

It is forced by TTC.

https://x.com/miharasan/status/1908208695391248558

[sixfold]

Thank you for all your hard work fixing issues, and thank you for taking community feedback into account!

[Sereosh]

macyayaya a écrit :

Sereosh a écrit :

Thank you I have a suggestion: a setting to change the location of the NEXT piece, to have it positioned where it is in TGM1, 2 and 3 (top, center, aligned where the piece falls). I don't know if it was considered.

It is forced by TTC.

https://x.com/miharasan/status/1908208695391248558

Damn it LOL. Well, I guess I'll retain a tiny shred of hope, not too much though. Thanks for the explanation.

[PetitPrince]

Sereosh a écrit :

macyayaya a écrit :

It is forced by TTC.

https://x.com/miharasan/status/1908208695391248558

Damn it LOL. Well, I guess I'll retain a tiny shred of hope, not too much though. Thanks for the explanation.

My hope is that if enough of us still complain this will give Mihara-san and Arika enough ammo to ask TTC to revert this stupid decision.

[Sereosh]

PetitPrince a écrit :

My hope is that if enough of us still complain this will give Mihara-san and Arika enough ammo to ask TTC to revert this stupid decision.

The way it is currently as a default is fine. A setting to change it to "TGM mode" would be ideal, just like how we can reduce the number of pieces shown in NEXT. But honestly I don't know how flexible TTC is with that, so I'll try my best to adapt to the way it is now.

[zaphod]

Games that allow rebinding keyboard almost always allow rebinding all possible inputs, including the four directions.

Tetris.com web based tetris game is a good reference for this.

https://tetris.com/play-tetris/

as you can see, it allows all controls be rebound. that said the mouse doesn't work inside of TGM4.

So i recommend that menu input outside of game mode always accept arrow keys, enter, and escape, in addition to anything else bound to ok and back. this should allow all game mode inputs to be rebound.

This is to accommodate WASD and arrow key/numpad users.

If you added wasd as a forced alternate bind, then you would be unfair to arrow key and numpad users, who may wish to bind a s or d to something else.

Also, PLEASE allow binding up to hard drop and 2nd CW to whatever. if you must, have it as a toggle in the rebind menu, so whatever is actually up will move up in the menu.

also implement cleaning on move right, move left, hard drop and soft drop. on all input methods. The current system of prefer movement to drop does work, but as i've stated, people will generally prefer last wins, and can use keyboard firmware/external software to get this regardless of what your game decides.

This is also the reason that the DAS preservation with frame perfect reversals should be removed, because it's trivial on everything that's not a stick that has it's own cleaning, which is all leverless, and many gaming keyboards.

[User670]

Edit: I fixed the issue myself. Turns out that this is indeed a multi-monitor issue. Despite not actually having a second monitor, the computer somehow registers a second monitor.
What I found and did when I resolved my issue:
- (I am not connecting to 2 monitors. If you are connected to 2 or more monitors, you might want to disconnect some until you have one monitor.)
- go to system settings -> display.
- Check if the system still thinks multi-monitor settings should be dislayed - for me, it shows the thing to drag monitors around, and under "multiple monitors" or something like that, it gives me the option to choose which monitor(s) to display.
- I toggled the display from "display on monitor 2 only" to "display on monitor 1 only".
- screen goes black, then go back, with a prompt asking whether I'd like to keep my settings. After I click "keep", the aforementioned multi-monitor-related settings disappeared, as the system no longer registers 2 monitors.


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Hi. Here's the log file I get for trying to launch the game.
The taskbar shows TGM4 briefly (and disappear right after); no game window ever appear.
Device model: Lenovo Legion Y7000P2021
OS: Windows 10 x64 22H2 (internal version 19045.5608) Chinese Home edition
CPU: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11400H
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Laptop GPU
GPU driver: GeForce Game Ready driver, version 572.83
DirectX 12 installed

Log file below

2025.4.6 21: 5:49 >> C:\Users\User670\AppData\Local\tgm4\/tgm4.log -- Loging Start!!

AppVersion: 1.0.4

Num=1
SelectMonitor:\\.\DISPLAY1
SelectMonitor Setting:1920 x 1080 / 0Hz
CMainWindow::Initialize()
CWndBase BaseInitialize OK!
choose ScreenMode :
choose ScreenMode not Found!!
choose ScreenMode :
choose ScreenMode not Found!!
choose ScreenMode :
choose ScreenMode not Found!!
0 (ColFormat:23) : GetAdapterMode Not Found!!
デバイス初期化 失敗
Failed / AllInitialize() / CGraphic::Initialize() ---- 0x80020012
CSysMain::Final()
CMainWindow::FInal()

[mat]

thank you so much for the updates! so good!

Planning WHD (widescreen) support (mid-term task)

can you please also implement support for 4:3 aspect ratio? I'm really enjoying playing on a CRT arcade monitor, but the forced widescreen layout has a number of issues, particularly around fitting both P1 and P2 game info on the screen at the same time.

[d3struction91]

Would Sega assist with keyboard control binding information from PC Puyo Puyo Tetris?

[luther7718]

Regarding "Reviewing feedback regarding control feel and usability"::

Have you considered copying the way diagonal joystick inputs were handled in Tetris with Cardcaptor Sakura: Eternal Heart (テトリス with カードキャプターさくら エターナルハート)? Since that was a retail PlayStation 1 game, it must have had ways to deal with simultaneous U/D and R/L inputs.

[zaphod]

Sakura was designed for 8 way input, while TGM was designed for a 4 way stick.

Puyo Puyo Tetris players want 8 way so they can hard drop and preserve DAS.